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Why Johnny Can't Come Home: Episode 2 Vanished

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

On September 5th 1982, 12 year-old Johnny Gosch vanished into thin air while out on his paper route. In the weeks before his disappearance the family received "wrong number" phone calls almost nightly at exactly 1:30 am.


In this Episode we discuss some of the details around his mysterious disappearance.


Over the course of the next few episodes, the mysterious case of Johnny Gosch will lead us on a twisting journey through the seedy underbelly of America. Far from being just an isolated missing child case, this story has tentacles that creep from the lowest depths of human wickedness to possibly the highest office in the land.

Welcome back to another episode ofinvisible ships tonight we're continuing our discussion on themysterious disappearance of Johnny Gosh. If you haven't already listened to theintro episode that we made for this, that kind of sets up the whole case. Irecommend you go back and listen to that. It kind of sets up our theories,some of them about Johnny, Gosh and how he may actually be somebody else now, a guy called Jeff Gannon, but we're going to continue where we leftoff and we're going to start discussing the abduction, and we have sometheories about that as well. So so I didn't have you with us? Let's explore why Johnny Can' come homeand to do that, we need to go to the very beginning, all the way back: NeThousand Nine hundred and eighty two to the night before Johnny Gosh'sdisappearance,...

...lk the edge of the endless and gentlyswelling cornfields of central Iowa, Lysa fluen suburbs of Westermoine. It'sa classic midwestern hometown, it's full of Nice homes and golf courses,but yeah. It's somehow managees still keep a little of its small town, NormanRockwell charm. Everything around it is filled with this sense of life.Regulating normalcy from the outside everyone seems safe and trustworthy.This is a place where nothing ever happens. On Friday September, thirtoethousand nine hundred and eighty two, the Gosh family settled into thecramped high school stadium to watch their older sunplay football. Aroundhalf time, twelve year old Johnny decided to spend a little of the money.He had made delivery newspapers on some popcorn from the concession Stan whenhe didn't come back, Johnny's father John Gosh got up and went looking forhim. He found Johnnye under the bleachers talking to a Westen moine'spolice officer. Nothing bizarre about that. Nothing frightening about thaterly everything was fine. Johnny joined his family and they watched the rest ofthe game d. They all went home together...

...at about one thirty in the morning thephone rings and Johnny's father picks it up, and this is one of the strangerthings about this case. This had been happening for several weeks, going backevery once every week, usually on Saturday night. The phone ring at aboutoned thirty in the morning John's father would pick it up, because thephone was on his side of the bed. Apparently T was a wrong number andthat's what he told his wife and H arine every time, but on thisparticular night, norene remembers that her husband, John says okay, yeah hangsup here, reporded to her that it was again a wrong number Sunday September. Fifth, one thousandnine hundred and eighty two johnny had gotten up before the sun rise and washurriedly getting dressed, because this was turning out to be one of the lastmor weekends. Before real fall would set in Johnny decided he could stilldeliver the paper wearing flip flops as long as he brought along a whitesweatshirt to wear until the Sun could burn off the chill he would be justfine. He went to the garage to retrieve...

...his wagon. He left the House withGredgon the families miniature doxand riding in the back. Everything aboutthe scene was totally normal. The only thing missing from the picture wasJohnny's. Father husly went along with him and helped him out on his rout, butthe night before Johnny had asked his parents. If he could do this rout onhis own, his mother Norena had said no, she was adamant. She did not want himto go on his hown, so it's not exactly clear how johnny made it out of theHouse without his dad that morning, but we do know that that morning Johnnywent alone on the paper out and he never came home. Listen to his mother,an arene described how she found out that Johnny was missing next morning. The phone rang a littlebefore seven, some of the neighbors didn't get theirpapers, so we just assumed that Johnny was running late and had just gotten uplate, so my husband went out to try and help him on the route and that's whenhe found Johnny's wagon sitting at the street corner with the paper stillloaded. He had not even cut one bundle...

...and he was gone and we knew somethingterrible had happened. Our Son was a very responsible boy. He did not IMEAN, he was there for his roud. Hehad a perfect service award for every month. He had it, he wasn't the type toskip out John Senior, like noring Mentione, went out and looked for hisson, and he also ended up finishing his paper route, which is a kind of strangedetail to this, but I don't think they knew what else to do, but when he getsback to the home you know Johnny still hasn't showed up and there's no sign upthem. They be they're, extremely worried. They decide it's time to callthe police and, according to n Orene, it took thepolice over forty five minutes before they arrived at their house. Eventhough they're only ten blocks away becaus we go through this case you're,going to see how law enforcement, and particularly the local policedepartment, seemed like there were more of a hindrance to the investigation.The goshes weren't just content to sit around and wait for the police to comeup with something and find their son, and they took the initiative themselvesand began talking to the neighbors and finding witnesses and became very clearto them very early on that Johnny apen...

...kidnap, some of the neighbors, had reportedseen a man in a blue Ford, fair mount talking to Jinant one neighbor, a guynamed John Rossey. He is actually a retired lawyer, whe 's a credibleperson. He said he saw Johnny Giving trections to the man in a car, and thisis what also makes Mr Rossey such a great witness is that he had anencounter with Johnny Anda Guy in the car when he saw Johnny giving this GuyDirections. Johnny wasn't exactly sure where he was trying to go or whatever.So he asked Mr Rossey if he could help him give directions. Very. Strangely,when Rossy came out to talk to the man, the guy just spet off, did he quityouturn tore out the neighborhood blue through stop sign is like he didn'twant there to be any witnesses to him. Talking to these kids, that isextremely suspicious behavior and it's one of the things that right away. Youknow it made. The parents think that this was probably a kidnapping, the police totally different story.They insisted that Johnny was a runaway. They didn't not want to pursue thislike a kidnapping in any way. They did...

...not put a apb out for this car whenthere probably was still time you know if they notified all the localdepartments and stuff somebody maybe could have intercepted this car andstop this kannapping in the earlys. The police responded to missing personscases a lot differently. They had kind of a wait in s eproach unless they sawclear in you know indisputable evidence that foul play happened. In fact, theparents of Johnny Gosh had legislation proposed and changed later on becauseof this, that there's no long or any type of mandatory waiting period oranything before the police can just go all out and search for a missing child. Okay, let's talk about what hashappened so far in the case. Johnny goes out, and does this paperroute noren realize that Hese that somethingis very wrong, because byseven in the morning, she's getting all these phone calls from the people onhis route saying they had 't received his paper and first she just thoughtthat he overslept she sends her husband...

...out to go look for her son and henotices at the corner of the street. They find his wagon with the paperbundles all up there still tied up and their little dochs and standing next tothe wagon. He realizes right away, something's really wrong and for whatever reason he decides thathe's going to finish the kids reout whic. You think that 's kind of strange,it's so weird, and especially with the docsor right there. It almostsounds like he just missed it happening the papege still ther, he wagan stillthere and the doctin didn't run home or chased anybody just said right where itwas. That was don't generally, I wouldn't think staying one place toolong if it's not their home, so that's changing whats, your first inting to berun down the street run run around feel his name see. If he's in the in thevicinity I mean, even if even if you go with the dad, is innocent and it's sand people that think kinnapping right away like you still want to know whereyour kid is. When he's not doing what...

...ye're supposed to be doing Lik- oh I'll,just do your job for you, but I mean I guess he knew that something was reallywrong by the time he got home. Johnny still hadn't showed up. So when hefinished the papers and they decided to call the police now aren says it tookthe police, a total of forty five minutes to get to their house, eventhough they're only ten blocks away. That's the very beginning of thatindication that the police were not going to be easy to work with on thisone and they proved to be difficult the whole way through. But while she waswaiting for the COP to show up, she called the newspaper and talked to O,like the guy, that was in charge of distribution, and he gave her the phonenumbers of the other boys that you know were delivering papers that day and shecalled them one by one and had a chance to talk tomost of them before the cop showed up, and there was a guy. I don't know hisname. He was a sixteen year old, so he's one of the older paper boys and hesaid that he saw Johnny talking to a guy in a blue Ford, and this guy wasasking for directions and Johnny gave it to him and he drove off. And then hesaid that when they got to where the...

...paper drop was that Guyad circled backand was asking the other paper boys for directions and Johnny said that, likealready told a guy directions, it's creeping me out, like I'm just goinghome, and he left at this kid the sixteen year old, Paperboy SA. He sawsomebody else, walk out from between two houses and started following Johnny.Another paper boy said that they heard like two people get out of a car if dorslamming in a car just taking off and saw a blue car peeling going real fastaround a corner, same blue forard, so right away, you know there are someindications that there's a kidnapping and one of the most interesting peoplethat came forward- and this was a couple days later, when the policeweren't doing a very good job. They didn't even put a ABP out for this carlike they, they didn't handle this. They didn't take this seriously at all, but they put it.

They talked to a retired attorney namedJohn Rossey, who lived in the neighborhood, and he also said he sawJohnny talking to a guy in a blued Ford and that Johnny actually called theretired Turney over to give this Guy Directions and when the Guy John Ronsey,this attorney came out to talk to the guy in the blue car. He did a QUICGyouturn blew through a stop sid and got the hell out of there. So it's like hedidn't want to be seen. That is so many like. You know indications that this isa kidnapping right, yeah did the attornesee another car, or did he justsee the blue car? He saw the Blue Car John Rossey actually went underhypnosis later on to try to remember as many details as he could about the case.The apparently the guy in the car was trying to find eighty six street, and this is what the guy said when he went under hypnosis that a guy shut offhis engine opened the passenger the door and swung his feet out on the curbright, where the boys were assemblyg their newspapers and he started talkingabout wheres. Eighty six street johnny...

...turned to Mike and said: I've got mypapers load in the wagand. I'm scared, I'm getting out of here. I'm going Tahead home, the man pulld the door shut and start up the engine, but before heleft he reached up and flicked the Dome light on three times. Then he pulledout and left and another paper boy talks about the domelight flicking toand that's one of a guy walks out from between two houses and starts followingthe Johnny home. So it's it's organized. I don't know how manykidnappings of children are done in groups of people, not just one Weirdoright, because usually you're thinking like the lone pedophile or somethinglike that yeah, so that lends to the whole you kind of Luminadi sex calt thing,and then I wonder if Johnny got nervous so quickly, because he recognized himas the policeman he'd spoken to the night before and saw him acting strange,ind street clothes, just speculation, but the guy getting own. It's justified,though, because the police act it' so...

...weird through this whole thing. Youknow what I mean: There's sold so many bred flags for there to be akidnappbing, and yet they don't want to investigate it. Like a kidnapping, theywon't put out the ABP for the car when norren organizes a search party lateron, the chief of police gets up with the Bollhorn and tells everybody to gohome that the kids just a damn runaway it just was so hard that they wersaying they were not working with them and in one thousand nine hundred andeighty two. You know when the police responded to disappearances. It wasusually like he's- probably a runaway he'll turn up later, but because of llegislation proposed by Johnny's parents, they change that so that thepolice have to take it seriously, handle it it's too bad. I took you knowhim being kidnapped and whatever horrible things happened to him forthis to happen, but they got that law done yeah one silver lining. I guess so.The police anyway, were completely unwilling to investigate this, like anabduction and they insisted on...

...searching nearby woods and they werelooking at any theory as long as it didn't involve kidnapping or lookingfor this car- and you know other members from like thestate patrol and the county sheriffs in the neighboring counties. There try tohelp but were sent away by the police and the police did everything theycould to kind of styme their efforts and it really became just fell on theshoulders of. You know Johnny's parents to lead thisinvestigation, which ended up with him being like the first kid to be placedon a milk cart and like local, dairy producer and stuff felt bad about whatwas happening and really wanted to try to help the family. So he said thatthey could print his picture on the milk cartons that so that's the whythere I I always thought that was a little bit random, but they would be onnot parnty. That's that's kind of cool yeah. It was the presocial media way ofgetting stuff out here. Iweans it naurine's a pretty impressive woman.Yeah I mean you know you can't...

...underestimate e mother's love like shewas unwilling to not do the best she could to find herson Yeah, but you know there's so many weirdthings that we're going to be talking about in the next couple episodes- and I think we could all just safely say,though, that there is this- wasn't just a long petof fil that this was more organized and a more planned. You know we're going totalk about the phone, calls that the that were the wrong numbers that wereshowing up at the house and and maybe even kind of look at the father alittle bit yeah. This is this is a missing person's case, but it's justthe tip of the iceberg of a much wider conspiracy that goesbeyond hthe unfortunate disapparance of one child. Okay, guys, that's it forthis episode join US next time, we're going to continue with the the JohnnyGosh Saga. We're GOINGO continue looking at a lot of thes strange stuff,it believe me it's going to get even...

...weirder we're going to start talkingabout the MK Altra and a lot of the other weird stuff that ties into thisand you're not going to believe how many people are implicated in this poorchild's kidnapping, so make sure that you be there for the next episodethanks for being with us, you guys all take care.

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