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“UFOs & missing time” In Ohio's Largest State Park

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Tom Wertman the director of MUFON (Mutual UFO Network in Ohio) told us a story about one of the strangest cases that he has ever investigated. It involves two men, some kind of low-flying craft with brilliant lights, and a chunk of missing hours. What makes this account even scarier is that it happened at night, without warning and in the wilderness.

We are talking about one of the strangest and most alarming phenomena out there “Lost/Missing Time”. What caused two avid outdoorsmen to return home with a three-hour gap in their conscious memory? Whatever it was it scared them to the point where they were unable to return to their normal lives. And wait until you hear what forensic analysis found on their clothing. 

If you ever think that Ohio might bethe center of the universe, I have not had that thought. I've been thinkingthat lately, just everything has an Ohio connection to a t or goes throughOhio, so would make sense that Ohio would have some really good. You wilfulabduction story, time for the invisible ships podcast,where we talk about everything from true crime to the truly weird invisibleships, podcast ready, PEECA, we're back we're backrick. I can't wait to get into tonight's episode. You know the lastcouple that we did about the UOVO talking to Thomas Woman for Moon havebeen just so amazing to me to hear these incredible stories and I thinkyeah know I'm kind of it's better sweet, because this will be the last of theinitial anyway Thomas Wardman interviews, so hopefully we'll get themback at some point, but this will be the end, but we kind of I don't want tosay say the best for a last, but this is a cool one. Oh my God. This storythat Thomas Workman is going to tell us is one of those that they should make amovie out of it. It's a terrifying story and to think that it's true it'sgoing to make you rethink your time out in the woods your summer camping plans.So what we're going to be talking about tonight involves missing time lowflying craft, and it happened right here in Ohio. You know hows largestState Park, the Wilderness area of Southport Steve Park, let's get into it. Okay, let me send this up for you, sowe talk to Thomas Wortman and you guys heard the last two episodes where wetook the different things that he was telling us about UF in cases heinvestigated, and we presented that to you, and there weresome amazing stories. Like my brother said earlier in the Intro, you couldsay that maybe we saved the best for last, because the story is phenomenal.It was so good that we had to go down to salt for remember, we went downthere. We went camping earlier this month also happened to be right whenthe big flit convention was going on, maybe not a coincidence yeah but yeahwe did and we scoped out. The place is based on the story and from talking toThomas Wortman, because he went down and we got. I think we got a prettyclear approximation of the area right ye around an. I think we know where these guys were fishingwhen they had their experience and it's Sol Fork State Park. The lake there isis really weird shape. Right I mean it goes off in, like all differentdirections like an often post yeah is always little inlets and stuff sofinding it is tricky. But Thomas Warman told us where to look, and we put somepictures up on our web page from where we were at. I think we may be found theremnants of their camp right now. Maybe that's a stretch as happen to twothousand and fourteen yeah. Well, I mean, I wouldn't say their camp fire,but the fact that there was campfire remnants there shows it s, one of theplaces that people go to fish yea, so it all lined up, and you know we couldsee the trees that they spoke about, seeing the craft go over then you knowlike we were saying we went there because we did we like big foot allright do anyway, so we went to a big foot convention and they'll come up insome future episodes. But I don't think it's any coincidence that there's ercertain places kind of like a skin Walker ranch. You know out west, wherethere's just a bunch of weirdness around it. So maybe there's somethinggoing on there and who knows what the actual story is. I don't know, but selfwork state park is kind of known as one of the places of High Strangeness inOhio. It's a four hundred and one missing person spot where we were atwhere these fishermen were at is right near hose cave and there's a ghoststory tied to that. Like a fortune year, old girl tragically died. She fell offthe top of the ledge down there. I knew...

...that what's the ghost story, but Ithink that she supposedly haunts that area and later on, when we play youguys the interview, I think Tomas Warman kind of briefly mentions it, howthey heard the scream and there's like a ghost story associated around thatarea. Okay, because I remember the scream I associated with possible bigfoot, yeah or a possible Bob can is one of the things I think like that theleast likely I could be there we were. I was playing some Bob Cat sounds lastnight for my wife Lorrie. Now they make some crazy noises. I mean like it wouldscare the hell of you. If there is a Bob Cat outside your go yea I mean tever hear I like a rabbit good killun in the woods it sounds like a personscreaming. That's tragic is tragic, but that's why, when you listen to peopletalk about big foot and stuff like that and the one guy we talk to hopefullycan get him back on he's like an experienced hunter like those are thepeople I like, as I don't know what anything in the woods is, but he does.I don't think many people have been able to totally de bunk to the storythat we you're about to hear, even if that noise was made by a Bob Cat, therest of the stuff. That happened is really kind of hard to explain, andit's interesting that there's some physical evidence involved in this caseyeah. No, it's really cool to look at on the page too, because ricks got sometype of programming or AP. That makes it look like an actual book, so you canturn through it real easy and it's cool. I mean they really did this analysis onand there are some unexplained. You know like aluminum and chemicals andstuff like that. That's interesting, Yah, it's crazy and you should check itout check out our what pace. I'm on freaking wizard on that thing now, likehe keep trying to step up the game. Tell us the salt fork story, yeah, it'sone that it came in, like I remember the exactit was like going back now, like twenty twenty fourteen, something like that, Itwo thousand and fourteen twenty twelve and it happened right around the end ofAugust. What happened is I got a call from the gentlemen's passed away now he was involved with move on andgetting specialized reports, because one recourse come in a moon. They would review them quickly to findout what the report consisted of, and there were certain reports thatthey didn't. You know separate out for any reason other than this is ahigher profile case when make sure some is experienced in that state to be ableto do a good job with well. This case came in of a couple:People reporting missing time. What had happened is these two gentlemen: Lumbus Ness Tories,one was about nineteen head gone fishing about every weekendfor a couple years, and the relationship was the forty year old had a daughter and anineteen year old, cato the daughter, but their relationship was really that's. Why I say it's a sad father andson. One can almost start a sentence and the other can finish it. Well, these two gentlemen went downfishing. Every weekend. They found a fishing hole down by saltwork. They would go down here every weekendthat the weather was decent. They had a routine, they would do, they would godown in part, Yer pick up trusting in a little parking area. They said a canopy up, they put theircoolers and stuff under a canopy. They put their chairs right at the edge of the water,with their poles going out over the water kind of braced up. They would also get those glow sticksand welcome to their fishing poles of...

...light. She could see if there is anymovement on they build a fire up. They put wood onthis fire and they played a game that every half hour they would put red oak on the fire andit would guess how close it could come to this half hour increment as a gameall night long. So they see the whole night long and Ifinished, and this routine had gone on for the last couple years on this one. Given light goes back toout a member here in two thousand eight and twenty ninth of August they're out fishing weather was decent,their favorite spot had a great yew of the leg. You look across the lake and every other night, and this night theywere down there and they could see lanterns on the other side of the lake,where he said, there's a couple of guys who would finish all that long likethem, but they said they probably did more drinking than fishing and it wasjust their habit on the other side of the lake. But on this given night, theywere here so they're out there fishing doing thething about checking the fire rebating the hooks every half hour andabout ten three at night. They see this light coming low on thehorizon was not as big as demon, but it definitely wasn't a star. Theysaid it was. If you held your arms out of arm's length, they says roughlyabout the size and nickel at arm's length. They said the lake was to the north andit was traveling low over the treelings. He went out on a little part of theedge of the lake, which kind of extended a little bit farther to kindof walked up the edge to walked out as far as they could they're washing aslight light. Tis Go slowly across the sky, slowly across the sky, the beforedispart, they said I just kind of felt like they got forward and walk back to.You know where the fishing poles were, and I went right back to fishing. They just kind of like blew the wholething off. Well that the reason they also chosethat spot is they had a cell phone contact with the wife and thegirlfriend all night long and their family even checked on ofmake sure they're, okay and also to find out how the fish was going. Ten thirty, the light was there disappeared, eleventhird, another light comes over. They see this other like coming.Overhead is traveling over. They watch it for a little bit to like just kindof disappears off in the distance they're doing the routine again, withputting logs on the fire guessing the thirty minutes and they're getting the point. Theysaid he is not the time to put one in the fire again: No, not thirty minutes. Yet one of theguys check the cell phone said: Don't we get you more minutes yet? So one of the guys is up the beating,as Hook it's about one thirty in the morning roughly on ere, the nineteenyear olds, fading is hooked, the other one sitting in a lawn chair headily, and they heard his shrill cry. Theysaid sounded like a woman off in a business and they said the cry of freaked himout so bad that they nearly threw everything back in their truck untilcost, but for some reason they didn't. Hesaid: okay, let's just stick it out, but can you figure somebody quite twoyears going to the same site for two years: Tra a noise off at a distance like Russell.The tree shouldn't really be scaring some in that point, but they almost packed it in the leftto decide to stay. So they continue the thing that thenine girls feeding a hook or a year old sitting his chair next thing. It o the forty girlslooking around SIS, so some doesn't...

...seem right man. This does not seemready, pulls a cell phone that looks at it and aspire nineteen. They have no clue what happened between hundred thirty and fivenineteen in the morning, the nineteen year old is still baitinghis hook in standing by de a a leak and the like, I would be standing bythe edge of lake three and a half hours painting a hook. You know it doesn'tmake any sense now the fire was completely burned out. It was gone El that point when he goes to fire wascompletely burned out. It was daylight, that's when he said they got the heckout of there. They had a change of clothes. They got other fishing year to everything in the back of a pickupfrock, so coffin rode, probably rough about any miles or moreback home and they did drive up seventy seven onthe way home and the forty year old says I drive anymiles now were everywhere, I go and they don't hesitate. Well, they documented all this with theindividual move on when they called the reporting Craig Lane was to guy his name. Hecalls me up to Saint Tom. I want you look at a case. He says this was down in soft work. Ijust came in I'm writing it up. Now the guys gave it to me over the phone and he says: Would you look into us asure up I'll do a man so a little bit later about an hour orso later he gets me to case, but in that our time frame he give me their games, and I said you know I'm going to findout as much as I can about this case before it even comes in, and sometimes I like to challengemyself like this, so what it is number one as I had theirnames and stuff. I said: okay, let's go look at fit my flight tracking softwareand let's see what aircraft is in the region. At that time frame, I found a thirty the first time theysaw lights low in the sky, buck size, a nickel. The closest aircraft in thatdirection was like fourteen miles off so would they have been able to seethat or would have appeared really small? Now, when I pulled it up, my flighttracking software tells me the altitude air speed and I can even take itsorgans and put them into Google Earth, and I can see the math long across theUS exactly where they're at it was too low for them to see. Okay, Iso I mean I had in the ATANEA ion o doesn't mean that something wasn'tplaying for the transpontine like we talked about the earlier, potentiallyreally really loved, but the thing was the size of a nickeland he heard no sound whatsoever would had to be fairly close. I mean beingthat big elevener. I got it hit en thirty. ThereIsa Questo medical technology airplanes coming directly over it. I think it was a beach craft. Fiftyeight was going overhead at like eight thousand feet, so the second satellites that they sawwas the aircraft the times matched. I took an drop inthe cortos directly on Google Earth where they were at and I had a perfect match for what theywere saying. Eleven. Third, they heard this Thora woman's voice bychecked out what houses perner and there was a house clear across the lake,but they didn't report any lights or nothing over and at side that they saw. But the other thing that comes up withthe salt leg down here is: it also has some of the highest numbers reports ofBig Foot in the state of Ohio, so those wheere going there yea and one of mybuddies is a big flock under and I was actuallyafter we talked last time, Ricos...

...actually down in that area and HawkingCounty doing in investigation, okay, but that's a whole a whole nother day.Another show an I talk to you about big foot, one of these days, yeah yeah. Ilove that well, in this case I couldn't you know, I didn't haveexplanation for the sound, but then I started I said: Okay, I've exhaustedall of my aircraft in area. Let's go back now, let's start looking up theirbackground. Let's see if they're posting like on face book all the timebut fos, let's see what, if there on any blonds and anything else, I foundnothing related that was swear. I even went into the Lincoln page to see whattheir jobs were, and one of the things I had in mind isto go down to salt fork and take them back down thesoul, work and in this environment anymore. It hasscary. Sometimes you take you grow up with people like do you really know whothese people are Easo for the heck of I went and looked at court docks and actually found something that maybeone of the Anviti that had the problem or like really, if anything was goingback to drinking a number of years ago, nothing recent, but a long time ago. So I'm like okay, I don't see anythingserious of this it. So I did all this research. Besidesdoing google or shots the whole region, I did layouts. So if I went back down,I had basically photographs there. I can take it right on marking the whole region, where they'reat so had all these printouts done. Thisinformation comes in to make call the witness of like confirm everything thatwas in the report, basically in the ground about way not directly, but youknow I let them tell me stuff, and I kept, and I started like okay now tellme about this, and I was trying to you know basically fill the whole recording confirming everything they said and it didn't appear that they weretelling me any stories whatsoever. I mean they were still shook up. Theyeven sent me photographs where they said. We've got markings on her skin rations that we can't explain, and I me am getting these photographs.I can't help it think you. I wonder if some of these guys on the TV shows getphotographs like some of the ones I got. I bet they never did, but you can hear the panic in theirvoice, so I said: Okay, you know, here's why Ilike to do. I said: Would you be willing to drive right back down rightnow? The Sophomore- and I said by time I get to your placeand then we drive down the soft morgage going to be starting it evening againby time we get there, and I said just to let you know I'dlike to reenact everything on the site as soon as possible, and he agreed to do that now. This time,when we went down, I met them in a truck, stop partway there they brought the wife and a girlfriendalong. Maybe cause need support, but he guy says hey. I just want to letyou know driven the whole way man and he did. He was one who way down.I'm thinking, O fun does not pay my speeding ticket chet O it's kind ofweird how he has to drive. Eighty like what ll happen. If he doesn't- and hewent- I mean he did- I mean he's a cry. We get down to salt work. He takes meback there, which I already had all the photographs from Google Earth of thatwhole region, because they told me what he told me where he was so. He was able to map out the exactlocation said all these arial views. I can start writing on making those we get down here and they have themreenact how they got there, how they set everything up where everything wasat. So you get photographs and stuff...

...and detail everything involving everything. We re enacted everything that night andit got dark. It was maybe about on about ten o'clock, I'm going out ofmemory here t and you can see the nineteen year old, starting to freak out at any littlesound. He heard me you can hear twig crack and he's about to jump out of hisshorts. The way I always describe him as he waskind of like Barney flights. At that point he was just so high struck. The forty year old was also high struckand what was interesting is our conversation, the song earlier. I don't know how, but he told me whereI was from, I said: Yeah I used to teach martial arts and at Er caes really do you know so, and so Isaid Yeah. I know this other instructor. I said these very good friends of ourhoner of my school and he told me how many years hestarted marshwort and by knowing his instructor of heat, he was kind of likesome crack pot was on the loose. He would have been cutright away, that we got him out of there. Okay, so you kind of is almost like a back instructor boutsfor s character, Yeah Roun, exactly by knowing how long he was there at theinstructor. basely said this guy it a good quality character. So we went down, we re enacted thewhole thing I got, I actually said Hey. Can I takethe clothing yeah? You can have it, so I got your clothing from them thatnight, the ones a Koss and Whi. I was talking to the backup sowhen the the nineteen year old, when he heard that sound off the distance, this is when I jotty called my spidingchecked up, and I don't know why. But I had thiskind like a burning. Such a sensation go from my body that something wasthere. Something was going on. I don't knowwhat it was. I couldn't see anything I don't know what it was. I just had this feeling where my bodyjust kind of lights up. Well, we eventually got to the pointthat we kind of got ready to pack it up and during the evening. I also noticedthat the forty year old had a tap in his hand, was kind of unusual as an unusual pacis fame. I said what'sthat, for he goes on, I made a change in my life at a certain point and theTattoo designates that change in my life. Well, I got thinking I saw in thepast where he had potentially drinking problem and in the career field. He was inthat's not unusual, and I think what he is. He made achange in life to get his whole life stream. He got himself Tattoo interesting how you holistic, Lly, lookat what you're investigating like that, a it's kind of like why these people havethese things. Also. You know these sensations these experiences and we started to leave. We started goingback home, topping about eleven o'clock that night and it was really dark outthere we're driving back we're going back up.Seventy seven before we get too far away he's going eighty miles now, Orizonwe're going up seventy seven and if you go down that way, their cell phone towers along seventyseven, we get to a point. We come around thebed and hears US life from a cell phone towered directly above the tree line,and soon he slows down to fifty miles. Now, ifnot being down about forty five, he slows down until we get past asocial tower in the lights no longer do than back up to I'm like he didn't even notice. Heslowed down a Teton that...

...so I did the sanita about Tis at night,like holding back up later and said you know, I said how fast it'sdriving the way back. He was mad. He has a not all waited what you talkingabout. I said: There's a point you slow downto about forty five or to forty five fit all on noting yeah you did crush mewas behind you. You never knew it and I think something about that light was like a flash back in his MOITbrought back some sort of a memory that Hittin well. They were too afraid to go otheir house. After that night he went back home. They didn't work for liketwo weeks, there's nothing but that's that'supsetting the ptst yeah and they all stayed by theway in the same room in a house. The nineteen year old stayed there thatmean the girlfriend the boy we they like sleeping in the living room likeall together, yeah that something is terrifying themyeah and he says we didn't go out. We didn't go to work for two weeks an wewent back to work. We had to be back before dark. They were tolly paranoid about being atout after dark. But what I didn't tell him is thefollower immediately is a following weekend. After it happened, I get somemore equipment to do research and I drove back down to salt pork, anthree in the morning. I got there three in the morning. Oneis to see if the stories you were telling me wastrue that they were too scared to go out at night, and if this is ourfavorite fishing hole for the last couple o years and they did what they claimed, thatwe're doing is being down there every weekend, I would have caught them down. This was a nice nice weekend. I getdown there and there's nobody in sight, except the fisherman on the other sideof the lake who were drinking perty fishermaid, just like they said so. I get out and Istart walking around the whole region, not just where they were in. I got adetectors looking for any electronic fields, any magnetic anomalies, thingsalong those lines: radio, frequencies. I was looking for in that region andI'm walking around that whole area where they eando, let's start expandingthe region out. So I start going farther and farther out- and I got to a point where I mean I've- got this place- light out.Looking at my equipment, all of a sudden, my whole body againlit up like a freaking Christmas tree. I just had almost like this burningsensation and I looked down. I was standing in aperfect circle of dead grass at was from, like somebody burning the fire that was just yet. Did you take anyphotos yeah. I took some photos in area and I you know I'm going to take samples inthis area. Besides other samples a head, so I tooksoil samples around their whole region and I still had my little maps with MisGoogle. So what I did as I I measured from a reference point,which is a very large tram from that reference tree and nature, asin all different directions using the compass and mark or took my samplesfrom so I took that away samples where itwas at fat. Also control samples around the area put them in a box, and then I took in and on a whole samples, roundem,probably getting about five in the morning and by the way, when I had that burningsensation I forgot to mention,...

...but had that burning sensation, Ithought whatever happened. I think it happened right here not where they wereat where they're fishing up, but here iswhere it happened in. It was just a sensation and that's why I looked downand found the bird hole on the ground. So I took all the samples back took himover to a friend of mine. Is a research scientist that didn'tanalysis M for me on it, along of the clothing, so that took quite some time to getthat report back, because we do it all on the volunteer basis and it went down to a specterscopelevel analysis that she did and she turned out think about a thirtyor forty page report on it on the clothing that they had and they'd had contactwith them. In the meantime, they were coming a little bit more back thannormal. The nineteen year old, his her train or more than the forty year old forty year old, was really upset aboutthe fact that he'd lost over three hours. He was a time control, free andhis wife even said as much in she says he he doesn't say he saw you vote. He just knows the fact he lost threeand a half hours, he can explain. It has no idea, and one of the things I wondered at nightwe got together is where they drinking you know were the doing drugs. I slipped the Fono Cooler open thatthey had with them. All that was in it was bottled water in their coolers. There was no alcohol of any sort. Youwouldn't be so set about losing three hours if he was drinking yeah, that'sthat goes along with ringing exactly I mean, and that's what really go he andhe didn't drink. I mean he was. She was on balloted, you know. Well, eventually, the analysis clothing cameback and showed. Chemistry is not my strongest point,but the dame becomes lines, something like an aluminum hydroxide, which is basically an ingredient, wouldfind him like an pursers. A thing that was unusual about one ofmy friends talked me about it as she says, but it's not under the arm. TisIt's on parts of the clothing that you would not put anti purse Berlin. I said what he goes yeah and she goes it's not on the nineteen year old onthe forty year, old's cloth. This is the one it was like on in my friends. Collection shall, as apiece of Betty Hills, dress, van study and Bernie Hill. U Ocas fromone thousand nine hundred and sixty yeah the best money earlier abductioncases an she says. You know that her dresschanged color, so like a there's like a dark blue to it, kind of like turned to purplishcolor in certain areas, and this was where they believe thatthey've been touched by the aliens that something from the aliens it kindof like, came off and caused a dress, which is only worn onceto fate in certain areas. Do they find the same kind of chemical on her dresssummer type chemical on her dress, interesting? So this might be somethingthat shows up in these kind of cases, cloves and counters or whateveryou call them, and one fostat she had was s, maybe something like a oldreacting. She didn't really know for sure she wasn't really sure yet, but she found it. Also. The case out ofCanada, the similar type of a thing, so the other things she also knows. Theclothing is the gentleman's jacket which was blue, had turned a little bitcurepipe privilege, pink, really yeah in certain areas is likethat yeah...

...yeah and again she thought she didn'tknow. She wasn't sure it was maybe something like a bold if something wascoming off of this being whatever was was forming like a mold is almost likesomething that just so doesn't belong in our world touches something in ourworld at houses, this reaction, yeah and then, when I get the soil samplesback, it showed to begin with. I never told her for Itook the samples ahead for anything other than I had the boxes numbered andnot in an Americal sequence of any sort. The numbers are random, ines and I said, what's the result she goeswell. One of the containers has a high content of iron compared to all therest of them. She goes. The other ones have like adecreasing amount of iron in the soil that was higher than normal. I said really well, she goes. Do you have a map is, and ofcourse I got to have it just never gave it to you. That's all that one to keep to report completely.You know random stoney dropped the numbers back into the mat, or I wasstanding at exactly had the higher iron content of the whole region wow. Soyour spite since, actually, I was kind of verified there yeah and then, whenyou got way farther from that region, the iron content rough way down is iron. That kind of finding does thatshow up more and more in these kind of investigations, where we I've been told- and you know, one ofthe things to look at is what they told me is look for iron content, the soil,because it's almost like something is pullingthe iron up through the soil or you have a landing we that suggested, but I mean it just kind of blew my mindon both of them. I would you say that circle was like in a matter. It was about thirty, six or more inchesin the size stuff like that. Is that photograph, something that you'd beable to? Let us look at or a actually, if I could dig it out, yeahI mean you can. If you do find it, I would love to just you know: email, theemailed, a copy or something that would be fat. Look at. I dot got some moreclose of views of it and then some of them don't really showit that well for an angle and here's another interesting partabout that most story. I called the witness back at some point after I took the samplesand said no, I went back out to that region. You guys haven't been fishingout. Her heavy sad, don't have been back. I said really, I said Yeah I went downn there, onenight and three in the morning you guys weren't there and I started talking tomy smell. I was walking around that area. When Isaid I had one of the most unusual feelings of my life, then before you said another word, theguy goes. Was it over in this direction about so many yards by this big tree? I'm like how did they know that's whereit was at they weren't there. Nobody was around. That was exactly where I had thesensation that something happened right there. The Guy told me where it was standingat where I had that sensation, because he probably felt the same way there.You know yeah yeah and it was just really wild and it was one of the most more unusualcase. I've ever done. Okay, so thank you so much to ThomasWortman for being on the show. The last...

...three episodes that we had them on wereincredible and I love the way that he tells a story. If you want to hear more from him, Ifeel like we should mention this. He has his own podcast and it's fantastic.He is. Seventy episodes is called. U photos. I subscribe to one spot ify. Iimagine he's on other platforms as well. Yeah he's just such he's a great story,teller. He has an incredible eye for detail, he's in like just a what's it.You know true and true investigator he's away bill of North East Ohio yeah, but yes, yeah right. You knowbecause that I shouldn't throw Shan rl because he's an investigator in his ownright. Yeah so yeah for sure, but I do you know like we were talkingprivately like we both liked his approach that he doesn't come in therewith a single. You know mind set that he's going to go, prove aliens fromthis case or whatever, like he looks at things from all angles and yeah. I knowhe he's obviously open minded, and you know he even thinks he may have hissome psychic powers of his own. So he's notjust a hundred percent a cynic, but he approaches it from a cynic cool in thetrue sense fashion, so he's looking for facts and things that he can check outand double check and stuff. Like that. I definitely appreciate that I want tolet you guys know that we do have the report that was mentioned several times.where the you know they have a scientific analysis of the clothingthat the fishermen were wearing and we have there's like fifty five pages. Igot it from the black fault, which is a sight that does all kinds of differentUF disclosure stuff, but you put it on our own web page to you know it mightjust be easier. If you want to go to our web page, you can see it there orfind it wherever the hell you want, but invisible shipcot, yeah, invisibleships, podcast com, O the web page answers right. Now we have a lot more stuff, come up thoseso the rest of the summer we're going to be kind of doing more of the weirdside of stories in cases from Ohio and the surrounding region and there'splenty of stuff to talk about. In fact, our camping trip to south work producedsome interesting big foot stories from a yeah. No, I was just going to say oneof my favorite things about doing this is that we get to go out and meetpeople and talk to people about all these different kinds of stories, andwe had great conversations with a guy that we hung out with when wewent camping or hopefully we'll get him on for an interview. But long thatthose lines like we want to talk to you guys so reach out give us ideas, givesus stories things that we can chase. We just love to have a good conversationyeah and for all of our true crime fans. You know if you have some ideas of a case, that you wouldlike us to talk about, send that along too so just go to our web page. Ouremail and everything is right. There yeah, sorr email is ships invisible atGMA, and our website is invisible. Ships, podcast com, YEP, we're onInstar and Yutu by the way, if you're going to be doing all that, you may aswell go ahead and subscribe the show, if you don't already yeah yeah, don'tforget to like, because that helps with the algorithms or something. But it'sall about you know just the joy of sitting around and talking about allthe weird kind of mysteries that we may never really be able to sell, but Ithink we need them and we need to talk about them. So we've really enjoyedthis and we're really excited about. What's coming up in the future, soeverybody just enjoy your summer and remember next month you will foldisclosure from the government, so I'm sure that we're going to have a ton ofstuff to be talking about when that happens, him UF o summer, unless it'sjust like a big set up, and then they don't really release anything like. Iwould love to know, go like one year in the future and see whatwe're going to be talking about. Like will be, we might still be unpackingthe UF disclosure from the government or we might just be like you know whatthat was all just nothing. It's going to be a bunch of redactedpapers, like thirty sand pages, Butwhen...

...the guys in to it. It will findsomething yeah! Well, I can't wait so anyway, you guys that's it for tonight,but we will be back soon and we're going to be bringing you some morestories of true crime and the truly weird how next time ship mates invisibly not cast. This show may be reproduced any waywithout the men O ye writins, sits productions and El See t.

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