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Murder Lake update part 1

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In part 1 we get an update on the Bryon Macron case from one of our listeners/researchers named Bob. Bob has been doing some stellar work on this case, and you gotta hear what he has found!

I had numerus email back and forth withCharlie now, just ogiv o stuff that I've been finding and my o pression is one of his Coto. Once I believe I didtOwrd to Yowe, I was everetime for the invisible shipspodcast or we talk about everything from true crime to the truly weirdIniston bocast. We are back. It's invisible, Sinpe, we're crying wolfbecause we're back talking about the Brian Mackrin case, even though we aresupposed to be hard at work on our next series. We found some new evidence andsome of our listeners have been really digging deep into the PCI file and theyfell some things that were wengally too interesting to ignore that we couldn'treally let it go nd. So we had to reach out talk to them. There's two guys thatwere going to be talking to today, Bob who has been finding out tones of stuffabout what was going on with Brian mackrins pone in Scott. Our Video Guy Cott has beendigging really really deep into anything, an everything that we'vegiven him and I can't wait o hear from Oll of these guys an what they guto say.Yeah. I am too you know. I've been going through this and kind ofrevisiting some of the DCI report and kind of reading up on what we'relooking at. I don't know if we have the smoking gun,but we definitely have stuff that I think changes the BCIS timeline. Ithink some of he changes our timeline. You know in really oposes the questionwhy Brian was at other locations, then you know what's up with that cell phonetower, and you know the video surveillance stuff from Scott and thephone stuff. You know it's just just doesn't add up and and the problem is,it still poses more questions than answers. Should we give Boba, call and see what Bos go?Thi S bring him on all right. Let's call by hey bob good, hey. This is rick from invisibleships and I want to let you know that Danny and Darren are here and wearerecording and we wanted to talk to you about the excitedg stuff that you'vebeen in covering going through the BCI file. Oaboutaboynkthank, you very muchthat's really kind. Thank you for your time tonight, weare really interestedin looking at some of the stuff. You've been digging up. Iaonwell, let's see. Let's, let's talk about thecellfime things and before you go into it, we ere looking going through this data that you knowyou found, and we keep coming up with the fact that this is probably GMT timeright so that the Times that are showing up on the the phone records areoff by about five hours. Did you find that...

SOM instances, yessomHogi'mnotaprofsoalaarecognize hat I found from the selfting fromthe time I was able to uttogether NC sithe tings donmatch inmy opinion us hahe Loft, his Ha? U Buildingwhn, IATO, Arkus car, the League, so on andso forth. That's a case to me: That's a verysmall window of time that he want Ta put into doing what happend Wut theCelphonethrouout Taa. It was just everywhere right,worsomebodae hdhithey were trying to Goooan ocasion o person, perso passingit offe me. I don't know it's just too ironic. was there a location that stuck out toyou as highly unusual Ocaindilaionas, one of themaybeAroundthi five in the morning it was like place. Andi kind of an thenitin seems like it went offtheGa little bit. WW wherectin stops at the DRI AWTKD adrems to be connected. Winaaoa area SNGI. He in afilsinashed N Arporthangerwe're getting these kind of riings eybub. One of the things thatwe're planning on doing is we're going to put up the GPS coordinates of the phone andput him on our website, because none of us here are experts in this,but researching a little bit they're trying to triangulate Brian's locationright and going through the BCI final. We see Charlie Snyder, made a reportand he's using somebody called Nilos, which is something that atandt createdfor law enforcement and there is basically using triangulation to try topinpoint the GPS location of the actual handset access. So you know if avyoneout there is listening to the podcast, and you know about how this stuff works.You know we're going to put it out there on the webpage, all the GPScordinates and we would love to have...

...your feedback. You know anyone outthere if you know more about this than we do, and we don't know a lot of hardlike please. Twenty fourbyesng thetrusyall the cellone activity, in'leave and then somebody brought it back it just o celphon readings things or anythingto be, and I got a couple questions that I want to ask you about thecellphone activity, because I know from talking to you personally on the phonelike you found some exciting seff, but before we do that Darren. What is the part that you foundon the vcar report that Chele made where Bryan's phone at o Hondre andforty six agam is somewhere? Where we didn't expect it to be well, I thinkthat's what Bob saying is you know that tharound? You said aroundtwo, I think on the report. It said ondred and forty six. We actually tsays SI forty six and you have to take away the five hours to go to O hundreand forty six, it's over, like Canar Road Westfield, road kind of like inthat area, where there's a there's, a grass air strip there, and it has atwenty five hundred meter radius that it says it's within twenty five hundredmeters of that GPS coordinates right, Rrectthatxanow, it was osomething and Iwasn't an my Ond inhyou y, the FO ometimes. Well, I think that one, itsat for four minutes in that area and then it moved to a carson woods, GPS cordinate, where it's sat for likeseveral hours. I think we're kind of thinking that maybe Carston Woods isjust where his phone is registering when he's at his office. Okay, I'm not sure and that's why you knowI'm calling on anyone listening. That has more expertise in this to know. Itwould be amazing if it wasn't still. We already have a contradiction into theofficial narrative and then I know that we got to talk about the the CouendarUpdat in the mtm connections to Perfectinrmationhatstn Ildon't nowghwas nothing there and they released it. NSHE SAIDHIA open up to a red screenmeeting with IRA resident, which is you know, let me stap you there did. Whywould brian in the middle of his suicide orwhatever put that in there and and just the way that he wrote the calendar Medi?This is like meeting with angry resident. It's so weird iesting Ti as muh speculation,Talknprorbyseem towats, going on ith NIS IA esnti would think that Av...

...ays a week Ian M Oimentes see from theat an one of the extction files counter venttwith I resident Ng was not put into as fi until somound thiy ive 'cock yeah nd an can. I tell you somethingelse about that. One of our listeners, her name, isMaria she's, been doing some digking on this too and she's been posting it and when you account for the fact thatwe're doing GMT time on this particular entry that wasn't made until aftereight in the morning, which putsus way past the timeline ofwhen the police. You know hive already stumbled onto the bloody crime scenethat Bryan his supposedly finishes. Suicide and his dimen MSELF are startedto suicide and drive himself to Chipou le to complete the deed right WT.That's when the best that we can tell so what awhat's great, I you see UTC time for this, one is UTC minus five. So if we're seeing for am, it was sameform or UTC, plus Pietome Wel car should lo at it we'll go backand an clarify that, but there are post and I will put them upwhere is showing that it is more like eight o'clock when that was made- and I know I kind of stepped on mypoint to about it. But how strange is it that if Frid was stressed about thisupcoming meeting with an angry resident- and he had created like kind of aconfederation of his other coworkers, all the way up to having sandfor tohide and and wait to meet this guy, that? Why would he a need to make acalendar entry about it? Because if he something that would have been on hismind the whole time right, I mean he's supposedly involved everyone in theoffice about this meeting with Egge Resident and best case scenario he's making thisentury four hours before the meeting worst case scenario wis. Obviously hewas murdered and somebody involved in his death made that to lead people offthe trail, but no matter how you cut it, it's strange that we even see acalendar entry for it. I agree hundred percent. It almost leads back into thiswicas case is so crazy. Hatif you were trying to stage a crime scenend Stag, Isuicide and your story. All Week had been. I been ohcrap. I got to put thismeeting in here, yeah Ryou know. I've always agreed with the cops of thistate, the crime scen with states. I just don't think that Bryan staged it Yeyeah. I agree that it Wasin myopiniontati see dos Lookstag, I on'tnscomlicated of Ha case. I meansomebody that wants to com in suide, it's gon to be a on and Donei know:Seven befor. Everybody knows Bian probany, ING aayseal. He was INALIN SOM,pretty highle test persehe was a weapons man. I think I wouldhave BiBeso complicated hi, the body hind of fomly evidence trying covered up. Ithink he want o Music Gon and I would have beenae alltheulation that we havetoday. It's just enorsags Oly Done Yeah. I mean I totally agree with you andthen you know, there's some other thingsthat I always think about that, no matter who you are or what you weregenerally, when you're committing suicide you're, not in what we wouldcall the right frame of mind and in what we see from this case is that you know somebody whether it' be Brian,which I don't believe, or I really...

...believe that this somebody's trying toto stage it, but the amount of thought that goes into a lot of this. It doesn't make sense. I mean it's likethey're, purposely spreading bread crumbs for us to find yeahbtlmen lot ofpeople speak Al Myisohihly, it's bee very highly oeth wt. To be there. Imeanlot ofte people n. The IR partent says the same thing that you know:Tifaly was the on guy. That would come in and check ou I Wasansi we neeanything and somehing you wanted to do. He was Itwas Knothecmuiyarighto, so bobgoing back to that PNG back on Westfild and Kanard right in that area. Whatwhat do you think Brian? Because what doesn't make sense is is, if you lookat the video footage of him coming into the township hall, he comes from Wedgewood down towards the gas stationand then makes a left into the township fall from the video footage. We've gotat least that's the car that they're claiming is Brians. They were on Hondren fifty and the tower changes around one houndred, an fifty, but the goofypart is, is why at on Honde forty six? Would he be on the other side of thelake, where the more direct line would be to go right past the Clark gasstation and Tern Right? You know what I mean rianthat's. What I'm wondeing to is che his car Sombay Placeis car, the LAKwher. They foundit Yeahona, sereithat's, wrs Vece as Shdaa thing, because now wehave Peopleha with him on a daily basis and we're close to MN daiy Basis Co. Sothe Service Bay you're talking about in the at the township, okay, Yep oneridoni yeah. They never identifiedthat blood Ridontifie, the Lon O t about a hipanic employee that mighthave caught himself. That's no reason. I'm saying Hispanic! Employeeis,because that's that's all we got from the detective was a there's, a Hispanicemployee there that may have caught himself, but yet they never match theblood. You know you're right and they did Everti bother chucking and then Icheckit it was in blood as Brian's in the office osr Mi right, it's almost as crazy asthrowing away knifes at a crying team where somebody Wasyea I've never heardof more knives, going missing and a stabbing. I know oin murder that we'redealing with it's insane and we think about it. Like you, don't know whathappened: Youre just stumble onto a bloody messy office and you find aNigft or like. I don't think this is related in any way to all the blooksthat I'm finding like. How does that?...

Let me clean that pretty good. Thankthis guy t, policere ca thi should be the first day you got allays in thecleaning section, an please getit, inpresses te GSE Fastafer, the othe Leafter they suspected it was washed Dores, not mention of that blood beingtested or checked after that point at definitely match Brians or you know, isthis possibly. You know another blood sourcei's a identifying yeah, just sopyinvestigation, one of the followers I' e page made a comment that there's beenbetter investigations done on on the kids show poket Ol. What are these guys doing and why arethe? Why are they gong? You know the lawenforcement, I mean there's so many things that are right there, somethinga Simo, the cellphone tings look at them see where they go. Don't just say:Oh, he left the building and then went to the lake. I mean yeah, it doesn't Ando Bob instead of beup to us, it shouldn't be up to people like US forger out. You know thatNashville bombme that happened around Christmas, that blown up RV. They findlike a dead scorch body and then, like the next day, they're making anarrested, somebody's house sure Madina P av all in the serice department. Theyhave all this information and it's like they didn't even bother tecking it.They just throwin away pieces of evidence and not following the leadsthat they should have been following es. I also want you to talk about theMTM connection. Is that am I saying that right? I think it's ANTP CONNECTION NTP,Connecton, okay, what is that? Er, Thatconeton WAAUOEEMTOBE T gt,iothephone T accessoresident, becauseiuers, Etokay Dalsuthat, eon, posedly,Awesomewherdisapperanotherunicou, L Yoo. At a glance. Could somebody have seenAAT s aenhat'Sagood pint about the picture. yeahthere is no picture in theBCI file of any cell phone whatsoever.

ILY IFSWOUNOWANT, to have a picture ofthat. Is it Notevidenc, O you're, trying tosell me the story, Thatoiyeahwhata good int about the PE thoughthat's? No, that's huge, I mean so you know,and I went back and listen to the interviews last night- and you know Imean Custello mentions it and Rick Evans mentions it now. This is the hardpart. Is these are interviews that are done in two thousad and nineteen? Youknow so. They've all talked with each other, but they both collaborated thatthere was the phone was sitting like right as soon as you walk in with youknow, but you know it's just it's just too weirdthat there's no photos of it. It's just an easy obvious thing: it's part of thecrime scene, those pictures of inside the garbage can everything I mean samedof us for never even thinking about that. That is and what is yeah. What is the reason? Egothepiagoinsidesnesays e ses, nitting onthe secret Soeonetnottin, beaseee whatthey ell, US yeah. Well, it's just so weird that,like I mean, would you ever put on your phone meeting withinger resident tomake it show up when your whole screen more like no ts, a good pointi meansi residentrighthackwhere is like now I'm even angrier, because I don't have my mthereno reports of the angry resonent. I mean like he obviously never got anysatisfaction that you never had heir meeting. You never have a chance toairis grievance, but it doesn't exist. Ng, that's been in the back of myMindandi Wul think soekind o Wan Com. He had a meeting with this Guy Andhe,never soff, because te Bo was at I resident and there's a that. Somebodymight have my name that I was Ding with him and then all of a sudden he's doneiyyeahi don't know. I really think that the calendar entry is is damning. I mean wether andwe can argue. Let's look at the UTC timer. We can argue about the timing,but somebody took a screenshow. We know...

...from what we know from Brian Spol thatsomebody took a screen shot at that on this phone and that it looks likethe Entri was created at four I the morning, even if it was created at fourin the morning it makes no sense but reuing Stuf, nniltansfer, betweenyou,knowat least to an to devices. So well. I think if, if they got into Briansphone, it's to a race things, not I mean, I guess maybe ad stuff theyhobvestly added, he calendar intered. I was reading about MTP and the way itworks it only. It can only take and put back the workaround is once you take it, youcan edit it and then put it back and edit it. So you could take his calendar contextof heer that created, but it's primarily for media. The M NMTP standsfor media, so hat of thing, a lot of images and sounds and stuff like that,but it on Androi they could. It could just kind of stand for everything Ithink to so what did bro Eveas a on his phone that they would want? You know other than right cover their des, nomatter what that's weird yeah, exactly exactly because I m. obviously hedidn't mean unless he transferred it to a township office computer and, if isfor UTC AO, to be nodg all over the place. Yeah right will that be after he's goneanyways and they should have had it in their possession. There'd be no reasonfor poling s with it. Yeah in the fact that Al Wait, O is the gues phone. Dothe complene ackup who goes to their office to commitsuicides and Ana Whu I do is think act. Why need to back up my entire phone Yeua fin just Ayou know I don't want a Mydea tobe Corruptedi want to make sure they know. You know that everything iscorrect and they spe my name. You know seriously wouldt that be one of thelast things on your mind, havbut you might. If you were going to commitsuicide, an you're en you right mind which is kind of an oxy Morin. Youmight want to make sure that your wife and kids are taken care of, and thingslike that, IMS, turnoff theve and something like that. Well, you're, notreally going to be worried about making sure that you can come back andretrieve all the data. That's on your poned inand chaterday. Not even I hate Mr y Oeah Gin. This is just something that wasrealyislhappenti IRIN inagand supposedly ice page was alreadymemorialized oo. Htwee tyingtooutdippar is AcoisArdy memerialized, an theyont EI he's coming back or that they're going tofind up to monch later the fact that that would bemreiz that quickly asPreesan is extremely bizarre. I'm hopefully, one day we'll get answersfrom facebook about who was behind them and how thathappened and maybe even find out what those messages were, but I mean anyone that is still hauld intothe idea that Brian was acted alone. Busnin, saying S, no way that that Brian was alone.

You know we have singlin O ilately snowcovere name the Lak, aOsin prancers trailtaraay, Downan expire just does noti. I Don' I don'tThinksotan ct kind of situation again. Rime was a big guy. I believe SGESOLD you're, gonna proably, seeanywhere between probably for ten endayments wow, that's my opinion, my Spculationo manydifferent things that don't fit IMEA R, touching jsoils. There's a lot of seacameras. There's a lot of picursthere's a lot of information. EAHI! Think it's! I think it's going toget crazy. It's going to Continu Toe crazie. I thinkprooheodst SMETIMEONTHATW I'm looking forward to doing the podcast when they they either reopenthe case were getting diagamesed because, ultimately you know we allwant the same thing. We want justice for Bria, Marceron and justice forsfamily, and we just hope that it happens soon. Youknow they've already been waiting for years. I hope they don't have to wait.Much longer appreciate everything that you broughtto us is there anything else that we should know before. Gostote listeners, faceboinonthe podcast and your resident of a Di Hooitthi is happening in your backyardEcos the case he swethe public desers. I think we're going to see that thesepeople that are responsible for this amongst us that's about line thesearen't outsiders en e people that were close to Bian Rian Peoe, that new, how et Bryan andthat's ha scary, part. I woul EI B, calling the prosecutor, I be calling myshare. If I would be demanding answers, I would be demanding that this casecans, uppen inso e eethe, Ko Hadm, usthere, someos, ther,somebody's brother Therr, somebody's uncle or sister, or an Pesen nthat's prettyclar, that you know Thiees to Ben Thwell, absolutely dthnk, you very much boe. Thank you. So thankyou. ttanks fo your hard work and keep digging, don't quit yeah. We won'teither- and I guess we'll be in touch DAS- I'm not a podcast guy, which isbizarre, and I suk on this inghow. You guys put this stufftogether and you get the people nwe preat. We just covered a lot of groundwith our interview with Bob and we still have a whole other interview todo we're about to talk to Scott and get his update because he's finding a lotof interesting stuff too plus you know the guys and I we want to go over whatwe heard and kind of unpacked that and give our impressions. So just becauseof the the length basically of this episode, I decided to split it into two.So the next one with our update from Scott, is available immediately. Youcan download it right now. You can stream it right now, so that is goingto be our update on the Macoin Port...

...with Scott, and that is available rightnow. So go ahead and listen to it and lassly. I wanted to let you know that alot of the stuff that were referencing, whether it's the GPS cordinates andsome of the video clips and things like that is available right now on ourwebpage. So if you're curious about what these things look like ore, youthink that you can help go ahead and check it out, so that'll be a wwdot,invisible ships podcastcom and just if you find anything you've got to. Let usknow. Okay, guys. I want to let everybody in on alittle secret, the invisible ships, podcast team doesn't always one hundredpercent agree even amongst ourselves, and I think that's important, and Ithink it's healthy, just like how you guys out there listening. You probablydon't always agree with everything or our take on everything and that'shealthy and it's important. We want to honestly look at the facts and honestlyreport on the stuff that we're learning, and so we in no way want to mislead you,and I think it's important that you know that we don't always see ei to eyeand everything. So when Bob brought up the calendar entry with angry resident,I'm very excited about that. I think this is a big deal Danny wanted, and he stress this pointand we're going to talk about it, some more in our next episode about how thetime couldn't have been for in the morning we're going through the BCIfile, and we see that the police did some kind of screen grab on Brianmackron's phone, and they did this at about eight twenty two in the morning. If we apply UT C time, which is t auniversal time that the celalar towers are using, and that is about minus fourhours from eastern standard time, we would arrive at this being created atfour in the morning, and I think- and I agree with my brother- that that isprobably a mistake that this date that we're seen on that couenterentry was probably the date from when the police made a screen shot at thisentry. That being said, I'm still very interested in this calendar update andI still think it's a big deal because think about it. Brian mackeren has ameeting with an angry resident and he's nervous enough about it that he'spulled in his other call league supposedly to lie in wait and make surethat nothing happens now. Brian mackron is a professional and he's in a jobthat involves public service. So don't you think that Brian machren would havelearned this guy's name and generally what his complaints were instead ofjust agreeing to meet with an angry resident and also if he had so muchtrepidation about this meeting, you know why would he put the calendarupdate in his phone and leave it as generic? Is that remember when thepolice found Brian mackron's foam were told they found it in the office andthat it was flashing with a red alert on there? That said meeting with anangry resident, it's an important key piece of evidence. It deserves all theattention that we can give it and it deserves to be discussed and debatedhonestly all right. That's it! I'm getting off the soapbox, make sure thatyou go to our next episode part two of this. It's available right now, wherewe talk to Scott and we're going to have plenty of time after thatinterview, where we kind of go over this stuff in further detail. Okay,thank you.

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