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Circleville Letters Part 1

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 This is one of the weirdest true crime stories of all time. For years the town of Circleville Ohio was the traget of insane anonymous letters. As the years went by the letter writer uped his/her game to include arsenic and booby trapped signs. One man was sent to prison over this but it didn't stop the letters. The entire time Paul Freshour was in prison the letters continued and to this day no on knows for sure who was behind the Circleville Letters.

 

Its time for the invisible shipspodcast, where we talk about everything from true crime, an I truly weird standthenhes mequetionorthe letters,because she got interested in them also and have been keeping up on things so onc o bite you it's Harto e Ridto. You kind of find out like what is thissort of the hom to present sing that this letter writer had? What is thatand it becomes more and more fit, never believe. A lier onnther Ali must yeah, fascinating and Igian. So becareful GIS. This is a big case. You know thecircle, vill letters, it's just notorious. It's people discuss it onInternet Messoge, forwards all around the world, it's in the Upper Ashelon ofunsolved weirdness, and it's a case that is just fascinated people foryears. We wanted to tell it, but we knew that we needed help to do it andwe got that we have experts helping us do this podcast, and that is somethingthat is so cool and so exciting, but in the next couple episodes we're alsogoing to be bringing you their full interviews. You goin to hear ourinterview with Martinieu he's the worldwide authority on the circlevillletters. You know if you saw unsolved mysteries when they covere this storyhe's the guy that they go to and he's the guy that everyone wants to hearfrom when it comes to the circle bill letters, and so he agreed to talk to USsuper excited about that. I'm also excited about Marie Mehu. She is thehost of the whatever remains podcast, a...

...show that we've all been fans of justbecause of the way that she does her research and how thorough she is andshe's agreed to help us. We also have Michael prely he's the author of anovel that was based off of the circle vill letters. It's called murder in theheart of it all, but with him we get into a really interesting conversationjust about what made his letter writer character, tick, and then we start kindof going into the psychology behind somebody that would be sniping atpeople through the mail. Like this letter, writer was, we also went downto Circleville and we recorded interviews with some people that werethe actual victims of the letter, writer that have never told their storyto anyone before we're going to be bringing all F this. On the next couple,episodes of the invisible ships, podcast poison pen, letters are usuallyunsigned anonymous and malicious. There's a certain heat filled intimacyto these letters, then no message, board or email can quite capture. Infact, it's that higher level of familiarity between the writer and thevictim that makes these so troubling. The writer isn't just attacking ascreen name or an online por SONA. He knows exactly who his victims are andeven where they live. It's proofed to the victim that they're being watchedor that their secrets are about to come out on this season of the invisibleship's podcast. It's all about familiarity, turn ransod we're going tobe talking about the circleville letters and it's a story that plays outlike a rust belt egg at tha, Christi Novel, It's the most famous caseinvolving poison pen, letters, and it happened right here in Ohio, a shocking,true crime story that remains unsolved to this day. It's not just about oneman's campaign of Grievance. It's psychological tear over a thousandletters and postcards were sent out targeting victims and harassing themthrough the mail. Some of the envelopes were found to contain arsnick and, asyou can imagine, this doesn't end well by the time the MANAC postal ounsloughtwas finally over one man was dead,...

...another was falsely imprisoned, boobytraps were set, families were destroyed and an entire town was scandalized, so we got Ta town haunted by lettersand whoever is behind this. Whoever is writing. These things knows a whole lotabout people's business, especially what they do behind closed doors and intheir bedrooms. Let's go through the timeline right now and just kind of layout the basic pieces of the case residents got used to thinking ofCirkleville, the small Ohio town near Columbus as a haven of midwestern peaceand politeness, but in one tosand, nine hundred and seventy six that allchanged when people began finding strange spiteful letter stuffed intotheir mail boxes. One of the first letters targeted schoolbust driver,Mary Golespie, written in large shaky block capital letters. The writeraccused Mary of having an affair with the superintendent of schools. CordondMassy, Var away from mask, don't mind enquestion about knowing him. I know where you live. I've been observingyour house and know you have children. This is no sope. Please take it seriesevery one concerned has been over Fak and everything Su Mary was understandably terrified. Herreputation, her career and her family were all in the line. Even worse, herchildren were being threatened. She didn't know what to do so at first. Shedid nothing, and that was a mistake. Mary decided to hire the letter. Shedidn't tell her husband Ron and she certainly didn't want her children tofind out about this. For the first time ever Mary felt a loss of control in herlife. Somebody was watching her monitoring her and now harassing her.Meanwhile, the writer was staying busy just like he said that he would soonpeople all over town began to receive similar letters. The letters allcontained a bizarre mix of threats and town gossip most were postmarked fromColumbus, were anonymous and contained no return address. At first glance.This might appear to be nothing more...

...than just some kind of small town, NayBlief indictiveness, but there was something more to these letters thewriter claimed to know intimate private details about the recipient's lives.Someone was very, very angry. The letters all had one thing in common:they threaten harm, promise to destroy careers and expose secrets, and evenand marriages and people were right to be worried when they spotted themailman. Many of the letters were right on the money with the accusations. Theunknown letter writer knew a lot about their business life. Incircleville wasnever going to be the same again: The glespies weren't, the only onesgitving strange mail in Marc, one thousand nine hundred and seventy sevenletters began to arrive at the westball high school targeting SuperintendentBordon Mass. The letters to massy actually predate the ones Marian Ronreceived. There are plenty of similarities to suggest these lettersare written by the same troubled, individual Massy's letters share thesame block littered handwriting and, of course, contain a heavy emphasis onGordon Massy being an unfaithful womaniser. Let's play that letter, Ber, sir. According to my girlfriend,you've asked her to go out many times: WEVI USK other female busdrivers. To doyour position in their jobs with you, you should not do this. This must stopat once for the good of the school and the families. If Theyre AR NOT STARTI'll, be forced to waite the school board, and I would hate to do that topraim another man's girl is untouchable, especially when they are out trying tomake a living thereis. Also talk of you dating the married woman and takingadvantage of them do you need the times and names again? Please think, as segust you find yourself a pemple face more and start up with her and Leav mygirls alone. The writer was unwilling to give Massyany time at all to correct his behavior. In fact, the very next day he did whathe threatened to do when he wrote the school board that letter ledges lateGordemassi is sexually harassing some of the schoolbus drivers that work forhim, stating that cordon mass hy doesn't take no for an answer andaccusing him of picking on the weaker ones.

So we know the anonymous letter. Writeris very focused on the sex lives of west false school employees. But howfar is he willing to go with his allegations? The writer begins todouble down on this theory that superintendent, Gordon Massey is usinghis power to force the school bus drivers into having affair was with himand many letters to the school board and vice principle. The writer demandsthat they talk to the bus drivers before something quote: Drastic happens.The writer claims the drivers are tired of Gordon Massy's advances and thatthey are scared of him. The writer says he knows all this is happening becausehis girlfriend is one of the bus drivers that I's being harassed bySuperintendent, Gordon Massy. So that's a clue yeah, but he won't say who sheis and we don't have any record of actual bus drivers bringing complaintsor allegations against mancy. What about America? Lesbie Mary has neversaid anything about Gordon Massy harassing her at work and she's. Amarried woman with kids so probably isn't also someone else's girlfriend,but suddenly it becomes obvious that the letter writer has a very strangeobsession for marrying glespi Mary should be very concerned about all theintention. The unknown writer is giving on March Eighteenth ninetneen. Seventyseven, a binow familiar looking letter with no return address, was sent toWestvall high school attention, place principle. Tear school talk to go Tan,marsy about his affairs. I shall warn you, I know t e truth. I want toprotect to school. It has a good reputation. You should keep it likethat. I shall send you proof about driver number, six, two, nine Onde,seven! She is a child in school ther now, but shall prove US shortly. Iexpect him then to be discharged and youll see, but I'm telling you thetruth. So there's just something about Mary that this guy can't leave alongand this about the time the signs start popping up yeah and these are justterrible. Whoever is writing. The letters begins, placing these derangedsigns all along the roads of Circleville, essentially claiming thatsuperintendent, Gordon Massy, is having a sexual relationship with MaryGlespie's twelve year old daughter...

...and the writer just isn't going aftermarryg he's also going after a family yeah. Remember, Mary's, husband, Ryn,already received one letter demanding he put a stop to the affair. His wifeis supposedly having right, but run must have ignored that right, I mean atthis point he's got to think this guy is totally crazy, yeah for sure andlike. Why is he going to trust these anonymous letters over whose wife,maybe but on April, fourteenth housand? Nine hundred and seventy seven Ronreceived a second letter, and this one is a lot different. One of the thingsthat makes this letter different is the fact that the writer has included areturn address, but there's absolutely no way that this is the writer's actualdrist. How do you know that? Well, because it's fine hundred and fiftyridgewood drive Circleville Ohio, kethat's, Gordon Massy's home addressright and the writer is just playing head games with the Glasspeece, but theactual letter was a lot darker. Wasn't it yeah for let's be you've, had two weeks anddone nothing? You are a pig defender. You are also a pig, make her admit thetrust and inform the schoolboard. If not, I will broadcast it on posterssigns billboards until the truth comes out. Only pig, ry motorcycles, goodhunting in your Redan white truck on your way to work. Remember she hung inhis office constantly until she broke up his marriage at home contact peopleat the school. They are aware, they're, starting to laugh and not only at her.Let her read this. It is no lie. She knows. I'm telling no lie and followedhim for weeks since last summer and had seen her meet him several times. Heknew of COD, there would be trouble. He is not as serious as people think heisn't concerned with your family only himself. He can't have affairs onschool employes and keep his job. He knows what I want when he quits I'll goaway. All you have to do is talk and ask questions from the people who workthere. You'll see this is no joke.

Ron didn't seem to think this was ajoke, though he can fight in his brother in law. Paul, Freshhour andPaul Remembers Ron. At that time, I'm going to quote Paul here Paul says: Ronwas devastated in distraught. Did you get much sleep during that period oftime and his life he was frantic, he would drive around an hour or two inthe morning before ha shift began. Looking for any obscene posted signs,he went out of his way looking for the science to prevent his daughter and anyother kids on his wife's school bus from heaving to see them Ron Workd veryhard to figure out what this was really all about and to have the problemsolved. So they came up with a plan right exactly so ron and Mary Gelesbie,along with Paul freshouer and his wife. Karen are just sitting around thekitchen table, one like trying to figure out what they can do about theharassment and how to make it stop, and then they just decide to fight firewith fire. They start writing letters of their own and send them to theperson they think is behind the letters they're getting and did it work it seemed to for a while, because theletters did actually stop for a bit, and I know what you're thinking youwant to know who they wrote the letters to don't you we don't know, becauseMary and Paul don't seem to remember at least they're, not willing to say whothey were writing to that's just kind of hard to believe. I know it's crazy,but it's a good bet that there was another bus driver named David, LonburyEah. He was a strange person and we'll be talking about him in another episode.But you know what this is just the com before the storm yeah. This is wherethings really start getting deadly. So let's talk about Mary's, vacation andRonze accident, so on August seventeent, one thousand nine hundred nd. Seventyseven Mary's out of town Ron is home alone with the kids. So Mary went toFlorida with some friends, probably to get a break from all the signs andthreats and letters that evening, just before ten PM, as Ron was getting homefrom work, he heard the phone ringing. He picked it up and heard a voice thathe recognized on the other end of the line. Now we don't know who was on theother end of that call, but we could be pretty sure ron believed is the personsending the letters? Why do you think that Wellit's? Because of what he doesnext, he you jumped into action grabbed his gun. He kissed his daughter, good,bye and told her. He was going to confront the letter writer around tentwenty five PM. His car was found...

...wrapped around Ha Tree Ron, wasn'twearing a seat belt and was partially ejected through the windshield heaspronounced dead at the hospital. According to the Pickway County,sheriffs department, lesspie had a blood alcohol level one and a halftimes thi legal limit. Amazingly, a forensic analysis showed that Ron's gunhad been fired, but the bolt was never recovered and investigators can'tdetermine why or when he would have fired the weapon. People close to Ronbelieve the sheriff's department had attempted to cover up of Ron gelespy'sdeath by claiming that they had high levels of alcohol in the system andruling the crash and accident, but Glesbie's friends and family don't seemto remember on being much of a drinker and their adamant that it would not belike Ron at all to leave his children home alone and go off drunk driving,and there may actually be a reason why the sheriff's dapartment would want todownplay this, because it's around this time that sheriff wiht ratcliff wasrunning for president of the National Sheriff's Association. Suppose he wouldeventually win some years later. Sheriff Redcliffe knew how hard itwould be to get elected with just a lunatic letter writernnhess community.It would be so much harder for him to get anywhere at all. If that letterwriter started killing people yeah, but never one to shy away from crazy, theletter wrider himself thought the investigation was sloppy and grew angry.When clespy's death was publicized. As an accident, the circlevelld letterwriter began sending letters to the townspeople urging a further fullerinvestigation. Just because Mary was now widow didn't mean the mysteriousletter writer was going to give her any piece. One of the more bizarre twistsin the case took place in the morning. At February, seventh thousand ninehundred and eighty three Mary was driving her school bus along itsregular route, but she noticed a large sign at the intersection of Sodo Darbyin five points. Pike Road. What was written on the sign was an obscenepersonal attack against Mary's twelve year old daughter. Apparently, thecreator of the sign wanted to let the world know that courtedmassy and MaryGlespie's daughter were having sexual relations. It was all way too much andMary was at her breaking point Mary stopped. Her bus got out and removedthe sign. She was surprised when she...

...found that it was attached to a stringto a cardboard box. Mary took the sign and the box back with her to the bus.She remembers being surprised at how much glue had been used to secure thelid when she was finally able to Prye the box open Mary found a hand gunrigged, a fire. The trap had been meant to fire the gunat Mary when she tore down the sign. Fortunately, for Mary, the trap didn'tsucceed. The letter writer had taken things to adeadly level and the suspect that police arrested Wat someone familiarwho was it, but when the police got their hands on the pistol from thebooby trap, they quickly discovered that someone had tried to file off theweapon seral number, but then do a very good job. There is enough of the seelnumber left to trace the gun back to Paul Freshhour, Mary Golespie's brother,in law. When the police question Paul, heclaimed the gun had gone missing a long time ago and said he didn't haveanything to do with it and he's maintained his innocence like even welltill the day he died. And then there were the handwritingSamples Sheriff Ridcliffe asked Paul freshhower to subject himself to ahandwriting test. The Sheriff told Paul to try and match the strange blacklettering on the envelopes as best he could and even have him directly copiedthe phrases from the letters. The sheriff would later be criticized forthis as expert state that this is an improper way to perform a handwritingtest and in the end experts could not determine AF fresh houer had actuallywritten the letters or not, but sheriff ridcliff was convinced he had. Therewas a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing to fresh hour who was arrestedfor attempted murder. Paul fresh ouer would change his pleaceseveral times before his case actually went to trial on October twenty fourth,one thousand nine hundred and eighty three on August eithth, one thousandnine hundred and eihty three Baul head used the insanity plea and was sent tothe Southwest Mental Health Center for an evaluation. Before changing his pleaback to not guilty, although Paul said he had an Olivi the letters and thepistol were evidence. Hof, the defense...

...just could not overcome Paul, wasconvicted of attempted murder and sentenced to seven to twenty five yearsin prison by the end of the controversial trial. Almost everyone inCirclville was convinced that Paul had been behind the mysterious letters thathe had attempted to kill Mary de Lesbie and that he very might well have had ahand in the death of wrong Gelesbie for his part fresh hour stood by hisennicence to the end, but the public was already convinced and it was takenas a matter of course that the threadning letters would stop with hisincarrceration. The thing is that they didn't the letters continued, increasing anintensity even ultimately reaching hundreds of people all over the region.Yet, even then, the authorities were so convinced that fresh our was stillbehind it that they placed him in solitary confinement to make him stopthe letters continued, though, finding their way into millboxes, taunting andterrorizing people from all walks of life, and all of them were postmarkedfrom Columbus, just as they always had been, which is odd. Considering freshhour was not in prison in Columbus. Faced with the deluge of continuingletters and their postmarks, a full investigation was launched and fresh.Our was placed under intense observation. After all of this, theprison warden came to the conclusion that he could not have possibly beenresponsible for the unsettling letters due to the persistence of the letters.It seemed more and more pausible that perhaps an innocent man really had beenput away in prison. However, many still clung to the idea that fresh hour wassomehow responsible to the point that his parol hearing was denied because ofit displayed him being a model prisoner. In the wake of this rejection, palfreshhouer himself would get a menacing taunting letter from the Phantom Cender,in which a section cryptically states. Now, when are you going to believe youaren't going to get out of there? I told you two years ago, when we set hemup, they stay set up okay, so that is basically that's thetimeline of the case, and we gave you...

...the big broad overview of it. Ind, thenext coming episodes we're going to go over the finer details and where thingsget really weird and then we're going to be bringing in interviews likemartiniant and some of the other people that we managed to talk to, and thenyou know what Doin, when you and I we went down to circlevill and weinterviewed two, ladies that were I mean there were actual victims of thecircle of a letter. Writer yeah, like you're, saying this is just sortof a thirty thousand foot overview of the case. We're going to get deep diveover their course of some episodes into the details of certain events, such asthe accident and the arrest and the booby trap, and allthat yeah, because, as one of the big questions was, was the accident just anaccident or was it a murder? And that is something that people kind of stilldebate about, and then the other thing is right now, where I'm sitting atanyways. I think this definitely involves the school in school employees,and I know that there's some people out there that don't think it does. Butthis whole, the letters are centered around Superintendent, Gordon Massy anda bus driver marry Geleste. Those are the two main people that the letterwriter is always on about right. Absolutely, they were the focus of theire of these mysterious letters over the course of decades and even th. Thevulgar signs that led to the discovery, the booby trap and everything that is,is so weird that this guy is that obsessive right he's. Writing theseletters, and I he's like you know what that bastard, I'm mos start puttingsigns up about Gordon Massy and what he's doing, and it's and it's hard to say and like if youread some of the people out there on some of the different message boardsand ther, some cool unsolved, mysteryos panpages, where they go over this stuff, there's kind of a theory out there thatthere's at least three letter writers over the course of time. So some people think it was Gordo messyson, William wrote some. Originally his parents were going through a divorceand just it was a hard time and then...

...some people obviously think Paulfreshower wrote a bunch of them and then that his exwife Karenco freshhouerwrote some to frame him, and these are just all theories. They were all gootinto yeah, all of course a leged. So what and then David Longwarry who we'regoing to get into him more but he's a crazy dude like he was the bus. Heworked at the bus DPOT for the school- It sometimes maybe buss driver, but heended up being on America's most wanted because he ended up becoming o like achild rapist, and then he ran away to Texas, where he killed himself rightand that's just one of those things again where thoes that doesn'tnecessarily mean that he is involved. But you know it's kind of curious thatthat was going on at the same time and that's who we assume are a lot ofpeople think maybe they were originally writing the letters back to when hesaid they were fighting fire with fire. So he's involved in it's just it's oneof those cases where, like even like Marie have mentioned- I don't know Ishe said it' to us and her podcast and the whatever remains podcast. But a lotof people think this story has been done to death and maybe it has, butthere's a lot we're going to keep doing it. Yeah we're goit tit, really good,but there's AIT's not settled it's I to me. It's still not settled the letters,never stopped the whole time as in prison yeah. And how can you explainthat when they put them on phone and mail restriction, when you move himaround the state, so Paul freshhours in prison in various parts of Ohio? Butall the letters are still you know coming with postmarks from Columbus andthe ladies that we talked to their loaders were postmarked from Columbusto and it happened when they got their letters and we're going to play them inanother episode, but they receive their lars right when Paul freshhouer was upfor parol hearing, and that seems like a lot of this relates to when Paulfreshhouris about to go on. FROL that the letters kind of kick up likesomebody's trying to keep them there inprison now, I will say to playdevil's advocate there. I was reading Aso that the the Es Court transcript, Ithink, from his first trial. No, no it wouldn't. It would have to belater so scratch that, but later on they they were basically saying that hewouldn't when he was in jail. When...

...someone was getting out, he would givethem the letter to mail, but that wouldn't so, maybe when he's beingheld for parole, he gets sent to a jail for the court, so that I mean itdoesn't hold a lot of water for me, because these inmates, when they're getting outof prison like they're, going Ta, want to drive to Columbus and mayll letterfor some crazy dude that they met in prison like. Why would they care they're? Not The most? You know nooffense, but people getting out of prison aren't always the mostresponsible, tpols reevl. You know I would love to go and do XYZ, but I haveto drive to Columbus to mail. This letter for a guy that I met in person,let me you know I might be interested to hear from people that have had thatexperience because he might have said something like hey. This is for my mygir. Can you just when you get out, but it would then one's going to drive toColumbus for it yeah I mean like somebody that going that way. Maybe,but you know when you have prisoners from all over the state and some of thepeople you're locked up with, aren't even from Ohio Yeah. No, that's! Okay! That's this! My onlything was maybe if it lines up with throll, we should look into that. washe in jail, like Franklin, county awaiting his parol hearing or somethingbut nold, be at the prison woeln roll herins? Are I mean okay, yeah Fraherents are conducted at the prison. You know well, this guy thing. That'swhy I'm excited for Rickie to load everything up on ourwebsite too, so that all of our listeners and the sluts out there th eare shitmates out there can like really dive in and kind of just turn over.These stones that haven't been looked at for about twenty thirty years, maybeyeah we're totally revamping how we're doing the show notes and we puttogether a pretty good timeline of the circleville letter. So just like youheard, like kind of our audio version of the circlevell letters, timelinewe're putting together. One with you know the scans of the letters and somegraphics and some pictures, and then there's also going to be on our webpage.We have the police report from...

...ronglespies accident and just anythingthat we find about the circial letters, we're going to be posting theyre eitherin the show notes or they'll be specialized page ith. The stefile gotfrom the Pickway County Library. We got forty pages from the librarian there.All these the newspaper from the microfish we're going to load that upon the website and Rick is really spent a lot of time on this and when it goeslive. I really think you should check it out, you're going to be if you'relistening to this, it is lie so go to www dot, invisible ships, podcastcomand you guys can check all that stuff out. Do you, ee there's one thing Iwanted to put in the show notes: There's a white page that you've got alot of good stuff from and has like a weird name. What is that it's SitcomsOnlinecom, I'm not entirely clear how a such agood place to go to for this, but it really is its not about sitcoms it'sabout it might be, but they have one dedicated to it's because it's Anuuntolved mysteries- maybe I think, is the connection and there's there'sanother good one out there to since we're giving shot out it's on nit's on unsolved, mysteriescom,okay and then another thing just to e thewebsite. We have a t public store out there. Now wecaust, you can get someinvisible ships, PODCAST MERCH! It's all the money goes directly to repairsto our emergency. Follow shelter, Fea Fall, shelter, yeah, we need that sobuy a sticker or we have handsome sweatshirts tshirts. Even a coffee, MOGyeah. I think you can desire we're going to try to keep uploadingdifferent designs and phrases and stuff like that. So ifanyone has any suggestions, put them on the website or the facebook page yeah,and also just hit us up on the facebook page with any of your thoughts or ideasabout the case, you know how we on the Bria American case. We work slope soclosely with the web sluice and with just people in the facebook communitythat were we're, feeding back and forth of each other. I hope that we can carrythat on to this case. So would love to...

...hear your theories and anything thatyou got. Hopefully, we bring some web sluice with us because those guys areinvaluable and we're going to do our part by being transparent and postingall the stuff that we get yes. So that is our policy, because it's not supereasy to find the suffwore posting, I'm not sure you can find online anywhereelse, yeah, so dnny and I endare. We have this kind of goal or dream that wefeel like. We should be the number one destination in the freaking world forcircle, Vo Letters, because it's in our backyard and we have our own webpageand we can put whatever we want on our webpate. So we're like. Let's make thislike the go to place for the circle OFA letters ind myght, take on it assomeone that does research for a true crime, podcast the stuff that's hard tofind. I want to put that out there forl the other people doing research fortheir true crime podcast. So please feel free to take the stuff that wepost to use for your own research. But just let us know what you come up with.If you discover something or have a theory, we'd love to hear about it,yeah so share that with us, and then we can share with the entire world beforewe wrap this up. Are you excited about having martinet on the show I mean hewas on unsolved mysteries. It's can't wait. That was one of Thiis, not thefirst time that we've had a call like this, but that was like this isexciting. We're talking to he's pretty famous, I mean if you, Google, his name,he's pretty famous for this and he's he received a letter himself. Yeah. Maybetoo, I think he said so he's a like. We always say we try to get interviewswith people that are directly involved, and so there you go on both sides of athe was a victil man, an investigator, so yeah, that's a good interview.That's super cool yeah Thore, a very special message for those of you thatare not subscribers. Imagine how disappointed you would be. If you missthis, even though you can go back o any time because that's a podcast, but youshould be a subscriber if you're not already make yeah, you can subscribe toour podcast and I tune spotify anywhere you go and when you're there, if youcould rate us and leave us a good review, we really appreciate that andhelps other people find us yeah, and I...

...also really just enjoy reading thecomments. You know I read all the coms every com, so that's going to be it for us. Next episode will be the Martineto sospecial thanks to Martin Yen, Michael Preley, Marie Nahuw, and also specialthanks to the great people at the pickaway counting historical society,because o their tremendous amount of helps a also there's a very speciallibrarian and te pickaway county library who went tr above and beyondfer. You know role as a librarian to help make this podcast ot guess thankyou Syra, and I thought all the Liberians are special, so they cu theyare no out of this show maybe reproduced anyway, without the missioncontywriting, visible ships, productions and El see until next time,shipmads.

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