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Amazing coincidences, fate and synchronicity

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Have you ever experienced a coincidence so incredible that it left you stunned? If you answered yes to this question then whether you knew it or not you have just taken your first step into the fascinating world of synchronicity.   

We will be talking about some famous examples of coincidences from history, like how a crossword puzzle almost delayed the D Day invasion.

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Ready Protect? Have you ever experienced a coincidence so incredible that it left you stunned? If you answered yes to this question, then, whether you knew it or not, you've just taken your first step into the fascinating world synchronicity. We've all heard the old sayings that sometimes a coincidence is just a coincidence, but is that always the case? I've often wondered if a coincidence can ever carry a larger or deeper meeting, or they just random events that our pattern seeking brains lay a time to if the skeptics are right, then why do coincidence often feel so remarkable? Is it because, as some suggest, they occupy both the realms of science and the realms of belief? Many claim that coincidence can act as sort of a bridge between these two worlds. Tonight on invisible ships, we're looking at strange stories of amazing coincidence. Will be taken a deep look into the strange phenomena of premonitions, coincidence and synchronicity from deep within our abandoned feme of bunker studios. It's invisible ships. Okay, okay, we are back for another episode of invisible ships and tonight we're going to be talking about the fascinating world of coincidence and synchronicity either. Dan. Yeah, I'm here. Awesome. So you are currently safe from the dreaded coronavirus and I just got my test today. I came back negative, so I may be able to actually leave this bunker and go up and restock and get some supplies. were running dangerously low on beer. Are you ready to get into night's episode, because we are going to be talking about coincidence. Yeah, I think this is going to be a good one. That is a great subject that you brought up in one that, honestly, I never really thought too much about. You know, you just, you know, you kind of have categories of things for what we wanted to talk about, such as paranormal and crypt it and all those kind of interesting things, and we said coincidence. I was like, isn't that just, I don't know, like something that you say? I don't know. So I'm glad that you had me look into strangely, coincidental. Yeah, you don't think about it when you say something like that, but there's a lot to it. It's interesting topic. I mean, how many times have you actually experienced coincidence and he thought that it was weird. But then you just shrug your shoulders and you move on with the rest of your life and nobody ever really stops to think like, well, what are the odds of something like that happening? You know, and I one thing is always kind of stuck with me is I always wondered is like, is there any larger or deeper meaning to these things? You know, it is a coinness coincidence. Mean anything more than that's just strange that it happened. And I saw a quote from Karl Young that he said I refuse to commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud. And it made me think about coincidence because, you know, we put them into two camps. is either that it's just a coincidence or you go to the other extreme where the people you know with synchronicity and often that the universe is sending you a message. But I'm not sure where I fall, but I wanted to kind of explore that topic and explore the top with coincidence further. Yeah, I think it's a really great topic, like I said, and one of the things that you. You had mentioned you as the question, how much do you think pure chance plays a role in our lives? MMM, and I like that question because I feel like one of the answers is it's like a double edged sort so in some ways chance affects every aspect of our life, you know, like what time lock out the door to, what time the bus arrives to, you know what, tying it to the grocery store, if you get there right in time to get the last love of bread, because now that it's so hard to get bread and milk and stuff, it's always a not. You have to get there right at the right time, where you're out a lock or toilet paper. But on yet, on the other hand, or the person that went to the wrong side of town at the wrong time and was tragically killed by a straight bullet, like if they had been later by a fraction of a second, it would have just shattered the windshield and not killed the driver exactly. And but on the other hand, it's like seems like chance doesn't play much a role in your life either, because, like it's not like people are born poor and then suddenly have good luck and become millionaires overnight. You know, a lot of where you your life goes and when your day goes is kind of pure ordained by the family you're born into, the neighborhood you're born into. You know, is not a whole lot of rakes to riches anymore. So I don't know this. I mean chance plays a huge part or a little part. Another thing that I'm thinking of and like when I say coincidence or talk about this as a subject, I think I mean a couple different things, because one is I think that there's things that are just coincidental and that's all they are. I think there's some things that maybe our premonition or synchronicity. And then, you know, is one...

...of my specially topics, or one of my pet topics that I'm always interested in, is predictive programming, which is more of a darker kind of new world order brainwashing sense of things. But I can find you examples of that to where you may look at something and say that's coincidental and other person might look at it and say, like no, they've been prepping you to accept this subject for a long time and like what you think is coincidental is actually an orchestrated attempt to get you to accept an idea or something. Yeah, so I think I want to look at it at that Lens, like there's multiple different things I like, and I talked about Quinn and I do think that predict a programming ties into this, because kind of what I was getting trying to say, and I don't think I quite put it together the right way. Of what I'm trying to say is you don't often think that chance plays much our role in your day. Like you know, then when I go to bed tonight, I have a pretty good idea what's going to happen tomorrow, and it probably will, you know. But really anything about exponential growth, all these little things that are a little chance, you know, whether you sat down here, you turn right instead of left. That all adds up exponentially and grows and grows until it's this huge thing that can put nations to war with each other and stuff like that. And that's like you plant a little idea. And there's an interesting it's a French riddle called the water lily. The riddle imagine the water lily plant growing in a pond. The plant doubles in size every day and it's left alone. It would smother the pond and thirty days killing all the other living things in the water. Day After day the plants growth is small. So it's decided that it won't be a concern until it covers half of the pond. Which Day will that be? Probably some were like on the fifteen or twenty day, something in the middle like that. Right, that's what you think. But that answer to the riddle is the twenty nine day, leaving only one day to say the pond. So it grows so small that you don't notice that it doesn't even cover half the pond until the twenty ninth day. But because of exponential growth it covers the rest of the pond the next day. And so these little ripples ripple out and grow upon each other and grow upon each other, and that's how like memes, are things that go viral. They get in the predictive programming. People can just put that out there and even's a little stupid meme of maybe a politician made to sound like he's sayings like that. It he didn't really say and they can be immediately disapproven the next day. But it doesn't matter. It's out there and exponential growth, coincidentally, has been kind of on the forefront too, because I've really became aware of it following the people talking about coronavirus and examples of like a water droplet reproducing, you know, splitting itself, and exponential growth and how long will it take before the stadium is completely underwater and things like that, but you know, that's I was totally wrong. I guess about guessing how long you had with the Lily Pad, but exponential growth is that's why is the riddle. You guess the right way. That's what normal person would think. Well, bringing it back to coincidence, I looked up the definition and as a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without a parent causal connection or correspondence in nature or in time of occurrence. But what I'm wondering is if we can ascribe any meaning to them or if they're just random events. I'm going to tell you about a coincidence that is a true story. See what you think about it, because in eighteen ninety eight Morgan Roberts wrote a book called the fuel, fuelty and it described the maiden voyage of a Trans Atlantic luxury liner named the Titan. So this is about the titanic, but is not. This book was written. You know, Titanic Soun in nineteen twelve. This book written Eighteen Ninety Eight. So obviously the titanic didn't happen yet. But the ship in the book is called the Titan and it was touted as being unsingable. Just like the titanic. It strikes an iceberg and it sinks. There's a lot of life lost, just like the titanic. You know, and like I said, everyone knows, one thousand nine hundred twelve. The titanic was widely touted as being unsingable. It strikes an iceberg, it sinks, lots of people die. Struck, it sunk on its made voyage. In the book the Titan the month of the wreck was in April. So same as the titanic. In the book there is three Thou passengers on board. In the titanic there was only two thousand, two hundred and seven. And in the book there is twenty four lifeboats and the titanic. In Real Life there is only twenty close. But to me that's just a coincidence. where it gets really weird, and I think you could talk about synchronicity, is that months after the titanic sank, there's a tramp steamer that was traveling through, you know, the same foggy stretch the Atlantic, and there was a young boy that was on watch, like the lowest ranking guy on the ship, you know, thirteen year old kid or whatever that's told to watch. So it came into his head, as they're traveling through what is essentially the Graveyard of the titanic, that he's like hey, we're sailing through the same waters the...

...titanic sunk, and all of a sudden he got this terrified thought in his head that the ship that he's on is called the titans same as in the book. So panic stricken like he sounds the warning because he's just freaking out and they stop the ship. They all come on board onto the deck to yell at this kid to see what's wrong with them, and they look up and there's a huge iceberg in front of them, like, if you didn't freak out at that moment, they would have smashed an iceberg and song. Okay, moving on, I want to talk about fake is the future fixed? Can we control it? And do you even believe in a thing, you know, such a thing as fake you know I don't know. That's a heart that's a hard question probably for anyone to answer. I think I lean towards yes, but I don't necessarily know that the fate is something supernatural as much as like an unobserved law of the universe. Well, like in the story with the Titan and the titanic and the real ship called the Titan and the fictional ship called a titan, it seems like they're in this scapable loop of fate, you know what I mean, in the way that's like the ancients Al Fate. It's just like you can't do anything about it. You're doomed because of this name. Though I guess to be fair in this, in the actual account the cabin way freaked out and save the ship. So they did escape their fate, even though it seemed like, just having that name, you were destined to be sunk by an iceberg. Yeah, now the the the cynical side, I mean says, well, how many ships that weren't named titanic? We're thinking by iceberg strikes? There's probably quite a few right, but I mean how many described it being the unsingable luxury liner that sunk on its maiden voyage by an iceberg that had a shortage of life. Votes now, the author that wrote, Morgan Robertson, who wrote that story, he said that he had no premonition. There's no psychic powers that work here, just that he knew his topic. He studied maritime, you know, sailing. I think he was a sailor, and they just was very good about how ocean going vessels worked and what their threats were and stuff like that. And I think he's tall where the shipping line at the time was going, where they were overconfident and they weren't, you know, spending money on safety features and things like that. So he just kind of saw, yeah, inevitable thing that was going to happen. It's I mean, and that's authors do that a lot. It's almost like if you watch like Star Trek, Star Trek the next generation from the S, they're all basically just using two thousand and twenty technology, but it looks really cool. Yeah, like they were. They were guessing where we were going. In TVH has today, probably see glimpses of what we're putting going to be doing like twenty years from now or something, and the Scifi, well, we know that coincidence. A coincidence is a very subjective thing, right, it's personal in nature and it inherently involves patterns, but in a way that they're more than simple patterns, because if you look at it, there's no way that story I just told you that you can say that it was definitely a chance to event, because in order for you to be able to say that, that there was like an actual causal mechanism for that to happen, you would have to be basically odd and have to understand the complete workers of the universe to explain to me how that was destined to happen. Right, right, there's no way that you can completely dismiss a coincidence is something less just to say it was a pure coincidence, which one of the things that strikes me as weird is about coincidence. Yet it's one man's coincidence is another man's just random chance, and it should and it's probably. But they they're both equally like when you talk about logic and stuff like. They're both equally like. Have a moral right to that opinion in the logical sense, because the other guy can't point to it and explain to him why that was completely destined again, and I just I do think it's something to the thought that maybe coincidence it just the end the workings of the universe or something, and maybe it doesn't have to even mean anything more than we are more influence in the choices that each other make and it just kind of ripples out in a ripple effect. And like there's this psychiatrist and his name is Bernard Bateman. He's a visiting psychiatry in your Behavioral Sciences Professor at the University of Virginia, and I found an article about him discover magazine and he believes in coincidence and synchronicities, he says, synchronicities, which are indicators of an invisible network that connects everyone and everything. Bateman suspects humans transmit some unobserved energetic information which other people than process or organized into emotion and behavior. Just as sharks have ampula and their skin that detect small ultromagnetic changes to help them look a their prey,...

...it's plausible, maybe even probable, that humans have similar mechanisms that detect coincidences. Like what is why does you think that, I mean? OR HOW DO WE PICK UP COINCIDENCE? Does he say he he gets a little bit more in into it, but the article then kind of just kind of gets into saying why quincies coincidences aren't a thing, so I kind of stopped reading it. But they do mention that. Albert Einstein even commented on the idea of synchronicities. He said it's by no means absurd, and then in the fifties Carl young came up with a similar idea that he called the synchronicity theory to describe events like that. Yes, synchronicity. Are those just meaningful coincidence, or is there something more going on behind the scenes that we can't even really see? Your understand? When we talk about meme culture, whatever, like you'll start to think that you are interested in a certain color like to paint in your walls or whatever your wife will or people become interested in a certain animal that they want patterns made of and stuff, and then all of a sudden it blows up all over the world. Now, I'm not saying that that's coincidence or predictive programming, but it almost seems like there is some kind of universal subconscious and whether that is being manipulated through popular media or as a way to either control or create consumers, or if there's something even bigger than that, like a universal subconscious like you'll notice that they're like things grow and waves do. You don't know, and I is that make an I catch myself with that to like all of a sudden he'll just start to notice that everybody's kind of dressing more like a certain decade and like there's never like a big push, but you know, like it seems like every every new fashion trend it's just twenty years before the current time. And so for a while we've been seen all this nine stuff. Like I remember like one day just kind of noticing a little bit of a s look to someone's jacket and then the next day everybody was wearing like freaking fanny packs and acid wash jeans, like where did that come from? And I know, like I'm old, so I don't get on all this social media that maybe people are learning how to dress from. But the same kind of idea, like when is it cross the threshold to just kids that, you know, follow this artists on spotify dress like this, to seventy five percent of the people under the age of thirty five that you see here all dress this. You know, when we talk about coincidence, I think everyone must have their own level of tolerance for how much of a coincidence they're able to accept before they shrug their shoulders and say, like, you know what, there's something else going on here. This can't just be pure coincidence. And not to go too far overboard or chain the whole true directory of this program but like nine eleven, there are so many strange coincidence out of one day, out of one event, that it's it's almost impossible just to shrug your shoulders and move on. Like you know the planes, how they went off course and they were flying into these towers. Just a couple months previous to that they had changed the Bush administration to change their reporting procedure so that instead of the military seeing a plane and scrambling jets to escort it, now they have to go to the secretary of State and get his approval, which dramatically slowed down the response time. Or you know, I think a lot of people that are old enough remember World Trade Center seven and how that building collapse. But it was the only at that time steel frame structure to collapse solely from fire damage. It was not hit by one of the planes. That's an unusual coincidence. A lot of the stuff with the Ben Lawton's and how they were the only people allowed to fly out the country and all this other stuff. It just you have to look at something like this and say, is this predictive programming? Is this just coincidence, or is this this thing that we're calling synchronicity, or you know what I mean. Now it it does feel like sometimes the world, or that part of the world, just has a moment and like it just kind of seies and like bleeds over and all these other moments, and I think I always come up with them. We're things that happen during like the JFK assassination in the days surrounding it. They're just like so many like synchronicies popping up everywhere. and like like Lee Harvey Oswald was seen passing out, I think, their anti communist flyers in front of the CIA building New Orleans. Like what are the chances that just a coincidence? Or now, no matter what, we're always going to have to wonder, like you know what I mean. Or there's a lot of other coincidence to I mean, like Lee Harvey Oswald had a job by he was paid by an FBI agentto order guns through the mail and send them photos of the different guns because they were doing a congressman was doing a study to see how easy it was to get guns through the mail. There's just so many weird things. Or Yeah, there's, I think, where he showed up at different times or how he had connections with high ranking millionaire CIA assets and things like that. So, yeah, you look at that you say, is there something going...

...on here that is more than a coincidence? Or these just a bunch of quincidence so that, like, you could be skeptical of any conspiracy theories and be like well, because Lee Harvey Oswald had all these connections, all these things, these are just odd coincidence. It's odd coincidence that a guy can defect from the military, marry or Soviet Union colonel's daughter and then be elastic leaving this coviet union. It's so crazy and that's what leads me to credibly kind of believe in some of those conspiracy theories and I would love to just do a JFK conversation sometimes there's so much interesting stuff there. But this does lead me to a thought that you can go all in on the kind of supernatural paranormal coincidence thing or you can think, hey, all these areas were super hot beds of Cold War's cold wars by activity at the time, so of course all these things are going to be crossing interlocking. And remind me of the story that you brought up to me about the in the months leading up to the allied invasion of Normandy in World War Two with the cross root puzzles. Yeah, let me tell you this story because it's so odd, it's so bizarre and there's a lot of different moving parts and stuff that when you look at it you might think, well, you could try to explain ways a simple coincidence, but really it's not. An in fact, at one point, you know, they got so concerned looking at these words that were coming up in the crossroopoles that almost upset the entire invasion of Normandy, which would have you know, gigantic repercussions the entire history of the world of this head stopped it. So this story goes in the months leading up to allied invasion and Normandy in World War II, there is collection of very particular words. It started pairing in across where its section of a popular British newspaper. And this thing started around may secon one thousand nine hundred and forty four, and the code words were all specific to parts of the D day operation that would kick off on June six. So you know, this is just like four days away from D Day. So obviously all the military intelligence people and stuff we are and heightened alert. Everybody was concerned about what was going on and they were trying to track down any would be saboteurs or spies. So when you know answers sorry pop been up in the daily cross word that had to do with D Day, obviously Mi five in the American intelligence community and self started getting pretty concerned. But according to an article from the Telegraph, and this was probably in two thousand and fourteen and on British online history magazine as well, the answers included the code names of beaches where allied forces would eventually land, including the US sector codenamed Utah Omaha, and other parts of the invasion. One of the puzzles included answer Mulbury, and that was probably connection to d day. With mulberry was that there was going to be artificial harbor there was anchored off the coast of France. It was called Mulberry to help move equipment on the beaches. So on May twenty seven, another one of the question solutions for the was codenamed for the entire operation. Another one in the same, you know, line of Cross Room Puzzles came up was overlord and that was what the entire d day thing was going to be. That's so was unclear which puzzle caused the investigators to track down who is writing them, but two officers were sent to Surrey, England, in May or early June to question this guy named Leonard Daw and doll was a fifty four year old headmaster of the Strand Boys School and he denied any intended all to disclose classified information and he was never charged. But mifive, which is the British version of the FBI, chalked it up to just coincidence and they had a note that said that basically Mr Daw was a compiler of puzzle. So he was a school teacher by a and just really into crossroposals. So into crossroposals that's hobby ended up leading to creating them for the newspaper. So he had a weird practice to like what he would do was asked a students every day to give them just a word, like the first word they came to their head, and then he would compile them into the cross reposal. So like as he's talking to a students, they're give them things like Omaha Utah, overlord and Mulberry Right, and that's isn't that? What that that links to the skeptical explanation, which is something called selection bias. So basically, such a bias is the biases introduced into whatever your control group is by the selection of individuals. Groups are data that you choose to analyze in a way that proper randomization is not achieved. So basically you're baking into your situation already the thing that biases the outcome. So he would his practice was to call in sixth formers, who, which I believe is the people that are in the next level of education and Britain, or maybe it's just like a different grade, but basically they said it at that no, it's like sixth grade or seventh. Yeah, so they said at that time the US Army was all over Surrey. I think they're living there and in camp there and everything particular in that area. And so there's no doubt those boys probably heard the code where it's being banded about innocently and then just and instantly passed them...

...on. So basically they overheard them, they got there in their head it. I'm not sure about that. I don't know how to research this part of things, so I can't give you an intelligent answer, but I know that the soldiers bust have known that something was coming up, that they were gearing up for something massive. Though D Day was notoriously secretive, there's a lot of disinformation and stuff. I don't know if they told the soldiers in advance what the names of the beaches they're going to be landing on were. I don't think they told the majority of the infantrymen. Maybe, like some special units, maybe had some more advanced notice, but I think the thing was largely kept secret even from most of the units. So I read that too. I don't know how much that part could be true, but again I could. Yeah, I mean these would be the most kind of top secret subjects in the entire Western was so top secret and and there was so much misinformation. Dan that, like the US and British army were ordering all these cold weather engine manuals and finished translated in books and stuff like that, because they're trying to feign the Germans and to think they're going to attack at Finland or attack somewhere like off of Corsica and the Mediterranean. They didn't want them to thinking that they were going to France. And Not saying that this explains it, but I think it was highly secret. If I don't know how much you know, obviously soldiers probably found out more than they were supposed to know anyway. And, like I said, I know that I'm sure they knew they were headed into the biggest fight of their lives, but I don't know if they knew the actual code words. So if you rule out espionage or just idol chat or loose lips, then you're left with either, you know, the synchronicity or the universal subconscious and that there there's something larger going on that is causing, you know, these words that are going to be so crucial for mankind history to start showing up on something like a crossword puzzle. I know they my only thing to say that it's just human nature. I mean there's there's a saying like three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. Like, does it even matter if you see the word, even if you're the general or whatever? You see the word overlord, but not a piece of paper? There's a chance you let eccellently, let someone else see it or you say it's somebody. Are you talking your sleep? Like it just gets out. And so that's why they do the misdirection, because they know that stuff is gone a leak. So they have to like have real leaks and planned leaks and misinformation and all that. So yeah, you definitely have a good point there. And if you ever want to know how hard it is to keep like a conspiracy going, you should read about the water gate thing, where there's only a few guys, a couple lawyers in the president that could have kept all their asses out of jail, and they all still buckled under the pressure of, you know, people asking questions and stuff and they couldn't hold it together. So conspiracies and things like that they do find a way of getting out there. But I really do sorry, I just I don't want to say that I really do think that this really could have been fate happening here, like because there, and I think it's like a mixture of kind of that just our scientific explanations that we're talking about, and also just like sometimes there's like moments in history where just it feels like things align, and usually not in a good way, and like just things that have been blowing up for a decade happen on one's like there's that saying. I think it's Lennon or marks actually said, like sometimes a year happens in a decade and sometimes a decade happens in a year. Basically, sometimes it's everything happens all at once. And like you know, if you ever been like in a situation where like you feel like your immediate danger or like you're just in a crowd, that's like starting to like lose it school, like you can just feel something boil up. It's almost like pheromones or some time, a sixth sense that like just gets in the air and affects the way people act absolutely. And they always tell people to trust their good feelings and sometimes, like I deal with large groups of people and I've always maintained that the group itself has its own personality, is almost its own entity. Like you still take the people as individuals and the cues that the individuals sending you. But then I like there's a larger context where they, as a group, become like their own thing. I don't know if it makes sense to a lot of people when I explain to them, but you can almost pick out a mood and just like feel the sense of what the group itself is experiencing or what they're about to do. Yeah, because I group is like almost like a living organism on to itself. That's that's basically what I'm saying. Yeah, and it's like the theory of very large numbers, right, the law of large numbers. Are Num numbers, a lot of large numbers. Yeah, I like like mine. I like mine. Well, the law of large numbers is basically like the best...

...way to explain it is like the lottery. Right, the odds of you winning the mega millions are bad. You know, you got like a one three hundred million chance of twenty. So that it is terrible odds. Right. It's the people still play a lot of you know, knowing whatever. Yeah, you never quite play the lottery, but you don't think like, well, I bought a lot of tickets, so I'm going to quit my job because I'm probably going to be a millionaire tomorrow and so I don't need to worry about that. Like now, most people go into with expectation that it would be nice to win, but I don't think I'm win. But you're not surprised when you find out that you didn't win, and you're also not surprised to find out that somebody else did win, even that person had the same odds. That's kind of how the law of large numbers works. Is like, if we have enough of like a sample base, enough, you know, people involved in this, then like we shouldn't be surprised that really surprising things happen. It's basically what it says. So to you win a lottery would be a surprise in miracicaous event, but the fact that somebody else won the lottery doesn't really surprise anybody. And it's and it's the same principle applies to the reason that we're in separate locations right now. The social distancing, like one person could infect two people and two people in fact, for people, and you know, keeps for build affect apile and keeps going and going exponential tells this out of control thing that is shutting down the globe when really, you know, if it you just caught at that one person, it would have been stopped in its tracks. That expencial growth and like just the way we interacts and societies kind of bounce off of each other because, yeah, just there's almost like there's an invisible force movement with it. Since we're talking about coincidence and you brought up the coronavirus, I have a coronavirus coincidence for you. Yeah, do you know like that the laboratory and the Wuhan Province of China where this thing broke out at like they specialize in studying bad viruses and in the last twelve years they've uncovered two thousand new viruses that bats can spread to humans, where in the previous two hundred years we'd only discovered like several hundred. So that's an interesting coincidence that we now have a bat do we know freaking virus from a laboratory near a laboratory that studies Bat freaking viruses? Right, I'm not a hundred percent sold on that conspiracy. I think I think a kind of a likely halflete solution might be a theory that you flooded. Is that the workers at the lab may have been selling the ant test animals to the markets to sell for food. Yeah, but somehow in that transmission something leaked out. But what I told you is not even a conspiracy, though. I mean, like that's reported in the Washington Post and everywhere. That, like that's all. Yeah, yeah, there are bad virus laboratory. Yeah, for sure, it's. Well, that's what everybody studies because for some reason that's are like the prime vector for these coronaviruses to get to us. That's are some dirty know what it is about bat? Yeah, they're dirty, I guess. I guess so. I would have messed with a bat. Now I tend to stay away. They're cool animals. Like to see him at the zoo. They're really interesting. But yeah, you don't want anyone near you. I know a lot of times, like we sit outside and have like a bonfire going in the summer months and stuff, and like and night all these birds are like swooping low getting bugs and stuff, and it took us a long time before we realize that those were bats. Yeah, I love, I love to walk at Dusk and look for the bats because they're they're everywhere. You know. I want to go back to the law of large numbers are numbers. I got another thing that it has to do with how we seem to think that we need large are numbers for weird things to happen, but we really don't. And there's something that is like the birthday paradox. It's some of that mathematicians talk about, or they call it the birthday problem. To illustrate this and ask the question of how many people need to be in a room before there's a fifty chance that two of them will share the same birthday. And do you have any idea with the number is? I think you probably too. Yes, I do, because I read your notes, but if I had a guess, so what size is the group of people? It doesn't say what size the group is. It just says how many people. You're supposed to tell me how many people need to be in the room before, like we got a fifty chance of two of them sharing the same birthday. And you know, you would think, because there's three hundred sixty five days in the year. I think Catherine Sixty five day right. Yeah, something like, I don't know, a hundred and thirty or hundred and thirty point something. But Yeah, it's actually twenty three. Is the bare minimum number...

...before two of them will share the same birthday. And I blew my mind whenever that because of what you're about to tell me. And you surprise me. When I told you that, I just thought it was kind of like a low number and I was surprised by that. And then you, when I told you the number twenty three, you went off on a whole other thing. Explain that. Yeah, well, there's this thing called the twenty three enigma. There's actually a Jim carrey movie, like one of his serious roles, about it to I think it's called the number twenty three. I think it's scary. Yeah, it's a good movie, but basically William s burrows is sited as the first person to bring up what he called the twenty three enigma, and a gentleman by the name of Robert Anton Wilson wrote an article in the fourteen times and he said I first heard of the twenty three enigma from William s burrows, author of naked lunch, no of express etc. And if you know anything about naked lunch, but it's like giant cockroaches and it's freaky stuff. But according to burrows, he had known a certain Captain Clark Rou one thousand nine hundred and sixty and Tangier, who once bragged that he had been sailing twenty three years without an accident. That Very Day carkship had an accident that killed him and everybody else aboard for the Moore. While Bros was thinking about this crewd example of the irony of the gods. That evening a Bolton on the radio announced the crash of an airliner in Florida USA. The pilot was another Captain Clark, and he was flight twenty three. Wow, so it's cool, right. Yeah, that is an example of outrageous coincidence and that's exactly the type of improbable phenomena that we're talking about. And you know, some people think that this law of large numbers, the law of near enough large numbers, could explain that, but a lot of people are not buying into that. I mean, these things are remarkably coincidental and they offer you a glimpse into something behind the curtain. I think right and once and it's one of those things. It's the bye or minehoff phenomenon, which we can talk about where once you notice something you start seeing it everywhere. By Mine huff phenomenon, once you know it's twenty three, comes up in all this stuff and there's a cool little wikipedia rabbit trail you can kind of go down. But they talked about a text called Prince of Principia discordia that claims that all things happen in fives or are divisible by or are multiples of five or how, somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to five. This is referred to as the law of five. The twenty three enigma is regarded as a corollary of that law, because two plus three equals five. So, like it gets in the Cathoulomist those, is considered lucky by some unlucky sinence. You're strange, sacred to the goddess eras, like you know, you get in all that numerology and like the different types of magic and stuff like. That's all. I just crazy rabbit holes. We can go down and talk about weird stuff forever. But like it's a coincidence. It ties right into your story. So you but coincidence is weird because it makes it hard to be a rational person when there's so many strange coincidence out there that you, like I said before, you there just have to shrug it off and say, you know, there's so many weird coincids, I don't know and just move on, or you look at it too closely and all of a sudden like you're being led into conspiracies and you're being led into believing that there's something bigger out there than just random chaos. You know what I mean? You can't like a coincidence and look at the world the same way after that. Now I'd say that it's an important skill to not take any information at face value, but it's also important skill to recognize that sometimes it's okay to trust what your senses are telling you. You know, because you could like be like, you know, because sometimes they'll be a story in the news where that's either disinformation or the mediahead that release the news that some type of agenda, or sometimes it's just a mistake. And then, but you know, like, for example, someone say, well, I'm never reading CNN again because they're biased. Right, but then that can make you turn off. You then you got on the rabbit hole roll. I can't trust anything ever, except for Bob on the Internet. Who told me that this is aliens. So there's there's a fine line you gotta walk. Others you go crazy. You know, there's so many weird coincidents, like involving presidents. How I think John Adams and Thomas Jefferson both died on the same day, which happened to be the fourth of July. Here the Lincoln stuff, and you can go off about how the Lincoln assassination, how and the Kennedy assassination, the tie ins between the different names or how, like Lincoln's assassin, one of the fourth theater Kennedy, was assassinated driving in a Ford Lincoln and all these weird things. But I found one about Robert Todd. There's actually two about Robert Todd. I don't know if you've ever heard these, but they're both pretty interesting that I was planning on bringing him up and I couldn't find a good way to say, gue into his so I'm just shooting it out. But one of the things was there's a connection between John...

Booth, Wilkes's brother, and one of the Lincoln Boys. So Bruce John olks booth had a brother named Edwyn and at one time he was at a train station in New Jersey and Lincoln's son, Robert Todd Lincoln, was leaned up against a stop train and he almost fell onto the tracks as the train started moving and he was saved by somebody grab him by the collar and pulling them back, and they happened to be Edwin booth, who's brother would later kill, you know, Robert Todd Lincoln's father, which is okay. So it's just kind of weird quincidental. But when you look at Robert Todd there's a lot of other weird coincidents involving him. Like he was basically an eyewitness for three different presidential assassinations. He wasn't in the theater when his dad was killed, but he went to his deathbed and he was there as his dad actually passed away. He was also an eyewitness to James a Garfield's assassination and then in one thousand nine hundred and one he was in Buffalo, New York because he was invited by President William Mckinley to meet him there and he didn't get a chance to see William Mc Kenley because McGinley was assassinateds he was on his way there to meet him. So I mean like is Robert Todd Lincoln just bad luck? I'm right, I know. I keep asking these things and like there's no real answers to them, obviously, but they're crazy. We're like this one. Everybody knows. But like in the civil war when it broke out in one thousand eight hundred and sixty one, the first battle bowl run right. It happened near a stream that was owned by like a forty six year old grosser name William McLean, and after how devastating it upsetting the battle was, he picked up his whole family and moved them and where he moved to ended up being apomatics court house where the war ended. or in World War One there's a cemetery where they're just randomly burying the bodies throughout the war and if you go there, the first casually the war cemetery or headstone is faced exactly opposite as the last casualty of that wars and like there is no planet as how the bodies went in there. That's cool. I just like looking at the coincidence. I mean, we don't know, you know, we can't say for certain how many of these things are planned or off any of them are. If there's a bigger thing going on that we're missing. But I know and it's but there's something because as they get like, you know, the two gray suns facing it seems like Wincon is to us, but the scroll that runs to their gay ride, it means nothing to him. So it's all about your perspective too, but it's real to us, so that makes it real. Well, that's really a good point and I didn't think of that. That is a good point. And I was reading a little bit about John Wilkes, booth's brother, and he was considered when the greatest actors in America at the time. He's famous for doing Shakespeare. He's called possibly the greatest hamlet of all time. But he also acted in Julius, the play Julius Caesar, with his brother Edwin played brutus and John Wilkes Played Mark Anthony. So it's assassination in that one too, and he played the assassin. No Brutus, I as yeah, well, there was. There's like twelve dudes at stab him or whatever. But I shame myself that I don't actually know that story at all. I just know what the Guy I don't know that Shakespeare at all. See that one could be less coincidental and that could just be more of an insight on what helps shape the man. You know what I mean? And how? Yeah, thanks, it's just, it's just, it's interesting because if you listen to what you know six sum for tyrannus, that he shouted after he jumped off the balcony, like he viewed himself as an advenger for the Republican he was, at least in his own mind, thought he was killing a tyrant, which is what supposedly the people that killed Julius Caesar thought they were doing too. Yeah, I mean, incidents are you know, you can there's no way that you can pin it down to anything and how weird it is. But like the thing with John Wolkes booth there, could almost think that this is giving you indication how this guy saw himself in history or how he hoped to be seen in history. Right, and because we're all shaped by our experiences, right. So, but then there's weird things that you can't plan to end up being funny to like I was reading about there's an airline in Finland called Finnair. For whatever reason they have a plane or a flight. You know how the flight numbers are different from the plane numbers. So they had a flight six and sixty six that left Copenhagen for Hell Sinky, and Hell Sinki is appreviate is atl for the airline. So left flight six, six six left for hell and it was on Friday the thirteen. So a lot of people thought that was funny. Nothing bad happened. It's just coincident.

But like, would you buy take it on flight six hundred and sixty six for hell on Friday the thirteen, right? Or did anybody like cancel their tickets or try to switch their flights? I wonder right nowould be interesting the here, because I I don't know. I if I knew before I bought the ticket, I would definitely passed on that. But that plane didn't crash or nothing bad happened there. So okay, so I guess basically where I'm trying to go, or where we've been going this whole program is that. Yeah, absurdly improbable things happen all the time, and what I set out to do and discuss when we started this was can we read anything more into these absurdly absurdly improbable events? You know, are they pointed us to just look at something else, like is there somebody running the show, or these acts of God or these supernatural or some of these just like fluctuations of large numbers. And so we talked about, you know, the improbability just of your own birth, or how we can look at things like your ten digit phone number that we all have. Right, that number is unique and it's assigned to you and is improbable like that. You've got that combination numbers. But yet you do, and I have my combination numbers and everybody listening has their own. And so these are extremely improbable events. Like the probability of you getting that phone number is, you know, staggering, but you got it and it just because somebody was going to have to get that phone number and it just was you right. I like if he asked me to guess what my next phone number is going to be, I could never guess, but whenever I get it, I'm not going to be surprised by it either. And that and I mean, but then there's other things, like, did you know there's when the Dennis the menace, the first issue of Dennis the menace was on March twelve, one thousand nine hundred and fifty one. But on that same day in Great Britain there was their own comic book that had a character called Dennis the menace. That appear to the same exact day and they're totally different characters. But there's just all these weird little like synchronicities to life too, and I love stuff like that. Are Do you remember in the s when, like one summer an asteroid movie, like an asteroid is aster movie, came out one month and two months later completely separate asteroid disaster movie came out and the same thing happened? Like volcana movies, like a disaster movies are a big thing in the S, and be like they would all have the same idea. Yeah, and and they'd be a two separate movies here. You know what I mean, like it's coincidental kind of well, it's not like the studio looked at it and saw that, like that movie was a big hit, we need to make one for next week, because these things are in production for a long time. So multiple producers and actors and scriptwriters and studios all decided to do a very similar thing. Now. Glad that you brought that up. To though, they exact, because I think about predictive programming and some of the stuff is sometimes predicted programming to to get people used to like a major societal change or something like that, like with the coronavirus and things like that. You know, there's been some things in the last few years leading up to a more and more movies about massive pandemics, and I think I personally believe that the whole Zombie, walking dead, all that stuff is showing us in infection could be prepping you, you know, for like this post apocalyptic kind of world that we're going to be going into. I mean, that's just a personal pet theory. We're not at the end of this thing yet, so we can't say farm right or wrong, but I never thought that the zombies were supposed to represent actual, you know, humans coming back from the dead and eating brains, but just I mean I think that it's that would be a super interesting topic that I love to talk to you about, because I know you don't hot to research into predict the programming and I don't know a whole lot about it, but I also think stuff like that is interesting, kind of capturing the Zeitgeist of a moment, and that's like a obviously a German word that I think it means the spirit at the time, basically, and like sometimes, like what does that say about the culture that first gave is and people are watching a post apocalyptic adventure killing dead people like that's some messed up things in our collect right. There has to be a cultural demand, like they tied, for that kind of thing for those people to want to consume what. You're right about that. And so it's it gets all into everything we talk about, like the memes and the the viral and everything. Well, when you said Zekeegeist, you know this. You just you're helping me wrap this up, because I think that I want to put these different coincidence into different boxes. There's one is obviously that's just a coincidence, and those things are unique and curious and you can shrug your shoulders at them and and that's all they are. I think some stuff is like predicted programming. That's harder and, like you said, that's a totally different episode to try to pin down what those are and where they're coming from and all that. I think some of the stuff, like you said with the Zychcheist, like, there...

...does appear to be this kind of collective unconscious. And I saw there was a universe who did a study on crossword puzzles and like these people had no access to these different cross for puzzles. They I don't know if the study had them like staying at a hotel for all weekend or whatever. In the first day they gave him cross re puzzles that they had just made up and they didn't do as well on them. And then they started showing them cross your puzzles that had appeared the previous day on another side of the world. And just because that quarker, that cross root puzzled already, you know, been out there and people completed it. Like they seem to have done statistically better on the cross repulsal. So some of the stuff, I think that leads more into like synchronicity and stuff. Yeah, and there is also, in my like Super Limited understanding of quantum physics. Aren't they just now researching that they can make like a proton appears simultaneously at the moment of his creation? I'm point stuff way out of wherever. I was like entanglement, that ideas out there that, yeah, quantum entanglement, that might be what it is, but like what, like the automobile, like wasn't that like kind of developed simultaneously in the US and in Jack and any invention, any invention that we somebody would be like, Oh, actually, Edison didn't invent all like Babble, was this guy, you know what I mean? All these things happened like that, because always somebody else that is out there at basically the same time running to file a patent on something. And you know, yeah, and like and you see that in like in like group think and hive mind and all that kind of psychological phenomena. Were people part of it? Just in the desire to go on to get along or to conform to like a strong lead or whatever, they all just kind of start agreeing on everything and like that's a culture is basically developed. You know, and how much of that is that just everything kind of lines upright at the at the right time, where a bunch of people all have the Semurika moment because of the circumstance, or if there really is like some type of a sixth sense thing going on there? And that's you know, kind of doing research for this topic that you brought up, I I really thought about it harder than I'd ever thought about it before, and synchronicity something I've been interested in lately before this and I think it ties into this topic as well. So the famous psychologist call young came up with the concept of synchronicity and it just means that events that are meaningful coincidences if they occur with no basis for them happening. It seemed to be meaningful related, or no causal relationship yet seemed to be meaningful related. So says, just as events may be connected by causality, they may be connected by meaning. Events connected by meaning need not have an explanation in terms of causality. So basically he's saying it's just to him it's just as. I'm kind of lost for the word here, but it means just as much for him for a strange coincidence to happen as it means for him for, you know, a force being applied to an object makes the object move. Like he's Just Hee's it kind of as another aspect of the human nature. But he had in the past use it to argue for the existence of some type of paranormal to so I don't know what thoughts you have on synchronicity. I really don't understand it, I guess, enough to even really comment on it too much. I just think that sometimes there's something going on out there that's beyond our understanding, that's beyond just the law of large numbers, that's beyond coincidence, and a lot of times they're they're evolving around like very meaningful events in the history of mankind and in life or death situations. And some of it I think it comes from above. You know, some of these may tie back to God, some of these, I think, our paranormal or supernatural nature, and then some of them I just think are strange coincidence and we don't always get to know. But which ones are which? Yeah, but there some some of them are almost verifiable and you know, people have used kind of synchronicities to help investigate mysteries or to help reveal, you know, things that they're trying to discover about their own lives. Or in Carl Young as an example, where he had a young woman patient who, in spite of efforts they both made to kind of get a useful therapy, she just was locked down. Basically, he said she she couldn't make any progress because she always knew better about everything so she always...

...had the answer. She couldn't be shaken at all. And one day she was telling him about a dream she had the night before where someone had given her a golden scaup, like a really beautiful piece of jewelry. And she's telling about the dreame because its memorable. That's weird gold scarub. And while he's listened to her talk, he hears something behind him gently tap it on the window. He opens it up. It's a giant golden scare of beetle and he hands it hurts that. Here's your Scaub, and that just led to a breakthrough in her therapy because she could finally like. It shook her enough to be open to therapy. So say, that's a cool egret where. So she dreamt the scarab before she received it. Yeah, she dropped about the scarab as a piece of jewelry, but while she was telling this to Carl Young, a scaup flow up to his window and it was golden in color. See, yeah, that stuff is weird. We need to do an episode about dreams one day too, because maybe dreams are just a part of synchronicity. I mean this is a fascinating topic. It's too much for one episode. You know, remember how we used to talk about I think it's at cloving point Arrow, or whatever. It's particular Arrowhead yes, showed up all over the world at the same time. Different things like that. I mean I think that might be an example of synchronicity. Cultures that don't didn't have any ability to talk to each other or even travel to see each other are doing the same things around the world at the same time. Or like, you know, you just gave that example of the dream and then there's something in her waking life the next day that mimics that some of the stuff. You know, you could be a skeptic and say that like it's near enough, but it's not identical so it doesn't count. But it meant something to her. It was significant for her. It was a sign that she was looking for. Some of this stuff might be interpretation, but it's well worth looking into and talking about and I want to thank you for joining me tonight and calling in from your bunker. I hope that you stay safe and that this coronavirus thing goes away pretty soon so we can get back and have you at the main theme of Bunker at the West camp, get down here to the studio sometime soon. Yeah, I hope so too. I hope you stay safe and I really never will say that's just a coincidence. Yeah, ME, neither. I think that's cool. Yeah, but can I honestly? I'll stop my Rey quite UN quick.

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