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Amazing coincidences, fate and synchronicity

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Have you ever experienced a coincidence so incredible that it left you stunned? If you answered yes to this question then whether you knew it or not you have just taken your first step into the fascinating world of synchronicity.   

We will be talking about some famous examples of coincidences from history, like how a crossword puzzle almost delayed the D Day invasion.

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Ready Protect? Have you ever experienceda coincidence so incredible that it left you stunned? If you answered yes tothis question, then, whether you knew it or not, you've just takenyour first step into the fascinating world synchronicity. We've all heard the old sayings thatsometimes a coincidence is just a coincidence, but is that always the case?I've often wondered if a coincidence can ever carry a larger or deeper meeting, or they just random events that our pattern seeking brains lay a time toif the skeptics are right, then why do coincidence often feel so remarkable?Is it because, as some suggest, they occupy both the realms of scienceand the realms of belief? Many claim that coincidence can act as sort ofa bridge between these two worlds. Tonight on invisible ships, we're looking atstrange stories of amazing coincidence. Will be taken a deep look into the strangephenomena of premonitions, coincidence and synchronicity from deep within our abandoned feme of bunkerstudios. It's invisible ships. Okay, okay, we are back for anotherepisode of invisible ships and tonight we're going to be talking about the fascinating worldof coincidence and synchronicity either. Dan. Yeah, I'm here. Awesome.So you are currently safe from the dreaded coronavirus and I just got my testtoday. I came back negative, so I may be able to actually leavethis bunker and go up and restock and get some supplies. were running dangerouslylow on beer. Are you ready to get into night's episode, because weare going to be talking about coincidence. Yeah, I think this is goingto be a good one. That is a great subject that you brought upin one that, honestly, I never really thought too much about. Youknow, you just, you know, you kind of have categories of thingsfor what we wanted to talk about, such as paranormal and crypt it andall those kind of interesting things, and we said coincidence. I was like, isn't that just, I don't know, like something that you say? Idon't know. So I'm glad that you had me look into strangely,coincidental. Yeah, you don't think about it when you say something like that, but there's a lot to it. It's interesting topic. I mean,how many times have you actually experienced coincidence and he thought that it was weird. But then you just shrug your shoulders and you move on with the restof your life and nobody ever really stops to think like, well, whatare the odds of something like that happening? You know, and I one thingis always kind of stuck with me is I always wondered is like,is there any larger or deeper meaning to these things? You know, itis a coinness coincidence. Mean anything more than that's just strange that it happened. And I saw a quote from Karl Young that he said I refuse tocommit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud. Andit made me think about coincidence because, you know, we put them intotwo camps. is either that it's just a coincidence or you go to theother extreme where the people you know with synchronicity and often that the universe issending you a message. But I'm not sure where I fall, but Iwanted to kind of explore that topic and explore the top with coincidence further.Yeah, I think it's a really great topic, like I said, andone of the things that you. You had mentioned you as the question,how much do you think pure chance plays a role in our lives? MMM, and I like that question because I feel like one of the answers isit's like a double edged sort so in some ways chance affects every aspect ofour life, you know, like what time lock out the door to,what time the bus arrives to, you know what, tying it to thegrocery store, if you get there right in time to get the last loveof bread, because now that it's so hard to get bread and milk andstuff, it's always a not. You have to get there right at theright time, where you're out a lock or toilet paper. But on yet, on the other hand, or the person that went to the wrong sideof town at the wrong time and was tragically killed by a straight bullet,like if they had been later by a fraction of a second, it wouldhave just shattered the windshield and not killed the driver exactly. And but onthe other hand, it's like seems like chance doesn't play much a role inyour life either, because, like it's not like people are born poor andthen suddenly have good luck and become millionaires overnight. You know, a lotof where you your life goes and when your day goes is kind of pureordained by the family you're born into, the neighborhood you're born into. Youknow, is not a whole lot of rakes to riches anymore. So Idon't know this. I mean chance plays a huge part or a little part. Another thing that I'm thinking of and like when I say coincidence or talkabout this as a subject, I think I mean a couple different things,because one is I think that there's things that are just coincidental and that's allthey are. I think there's some things that maybe our premonition or synchronicity.And then, you know, is one...

...of my specially topics, or oneof my pet topics that I'm always interested in, is predictive programming, whichis more of a darker kind of new world order brainwashing sense of things.But I can find you examples of that to where you may look at somethingand say that's coincidental and other person might look at it and say, likeno, they've been prepping you to accept this subject for a long time andlike what you think is coincidental is actually an orchestrated attempt to get you toaccept an idea or something. Yeah, so I think I want to lookat it at that Lens, like there's multiple different things I like, andI talked about Quinn and I do think that predict a programming ties into this, because kind of what I was getting trying to say, and I don'tthink I quite put it together the right way. Of what I'm trying tosay is you don't often think that chance plays much our role in your day. Like you know, then when I go to bed tonight, I havea pretty good idea what's going to happen tomorrow, and it probably will,you know. But really anything about exponential growth, all these little things thatare a little chance, you know, whether you sat down here, youturn right instead of left. That all adds up exponentially and grows and growsuntil it's this huge thing that can put nations to war with each other andstuff like that. And that's like you plant a little idea. And there'san interesting it's a French riddle called the water lily. The riddle imagine thewater lily plant growing in a pond. The plant doubles in size every dayand it's left alone. It would smother the pond and thirty days killing allthe other living things in the water. Day After day the plants growth issmall. So it's decided that it won't be a concern until it covers halfof the pond. Which Day will that be? Probably some were like onthe fifteen or twenty day, something in the middle like that. Right,that's what you think. But that answer to the riddle is the twenty nineday, leaving only one day to say the pond. So it grows sosmall that you don't notice that it doesn't even cover half the pond until thetwenty ninth day. But because of exponential growth it covers the rest of thepond the next day. And so these little ripples ripple out and grow uponeach other and grow upon each other, and that's how like memes, arethings that go viral. They get in the predictive programming. People can justput that out there and even's a little stupid meme of maybe a politician madeto sound like he's sayings like that. It he didn't really say and theycan be immediately disapproven the next day. But it doesn't matter. It's outthere and exponential growth, coincidentally, has been kind of on the forefront too, because I've really became aware of it following the people talking about coronavirus andexamples of like a water droplet reproducing, you know, splitting itself, andexponential growth and how long will it take before the stadium is completely underwater andthings like that, but you know, that's I was totally wrong. Iguess about guessing how long you had with the Lily Pad, but exponential growthis that's why is the riddle. You guess the right way. That's whatnormal person would think. Well, bringing it back to coincidence, I lookedup the definition and as a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without a parentcausal connection or correspondence in nature or in time of occurrence. But what I'mwondering is if we can ascribe any meaning to them or if they're just randomevents. I'm going to tell you about a coincidence that is a true story. See what you think about it, because in eighteen ninety eight Morgan Robertswrote a book called the fuel, fuelty and it described the maiden voyage ofa Trans Atlantic luxury liner named the Titan. So this is about the titanic,but is not. This book was written. You know, Titanic Sounin nineteen twelve. This book written Eighteen Ninety Eight. So obviously the titanicdidn't happen yet. But the ship in the book is called the Titan andit was touted as being unsingable. Just like the titanic. It strikes aniceberg and it sinks. There's a lot of life lost, just like thetitanic. You know, and like I said, everyone knows, one thousandnine hundred twelve. The titanic was widely touted as being unsingable. It strikesan iceberg, it sinks, lots of people die. Struck, it sunkon its made voyage. In the book the Titan the month of the wreckwas in April. So same as the titanic. In the book there isthree Thou passengers on board. In the titanic there was only two thousand,two hundred and seven. And in the book there is twenty four lifeboats andthe titanic. In Real Life there is only twenty close. But to methat's just a coincidence. where it gets really weird, and I think youcould talk about synchronicity, is that months after the titanic sank, there's atramp steamer that was traveling through, you know, the same foggy stretch theAtlantic, and there was a young boy that was on watch, like thelowest ranking guy on the ship, you know, thirteen year old kid orwhatever that's told to watch. So it came into his head, as they'retraveling through what is essentially the Graveyard of the titanic, that he's like hey, we're sailing through the same waters the...

...titanic sunk, and all of asudden he got this terrified thought in his head that the ship that he's onis called the titans same as in the book. So panic stricken like hesounds the warning because he's just freaking out and they stop the ship. Theyall come on board onto the deck to yell at this kid to see what'swrong with them, and they look up and there's a huge iceberg in frontof them, like, if you didn't freak out at that moment, theywould have smashed an iceberg and song. Okay, moving on, I wantto talk about fake is the future fixed? Can we control it? And doyou even believe in a thing, you know, such a thing asfake you know I don't know. That's a heart that's a hard question probablyfor anyone to answer. I think I lean towards yes, but I don'tnecessarily know that the fate is something supernatural as much as like an unobserved lawof the universe. Well, like in the story with the Titan and thetitanic and the real ship called the Titan and the fictional ship called a titan, it seems like they're in this scapable loop of fate, you know whatI mean, in the way that's like the ancients Al Fate. It's justlike you can't do anything about it. You're doomed because of this name.Though I guess to be fair in this, in the actual account the cabin wayfreaked out and save the ship. So they did escape their fate,even though it seemed like, just having that name, you were destined tobe sunk by an iceberg. Yeah, now the the the cynical side,I mean says, well, how many ships that weren't named titanic? We'rethinking by iceberg strikes? There's probably quite a few right, but I meanhow many described it being the unsingable luxury liner that sunk on its maiden voyageby an iceberg that had a shortage of life. Votes now, the authorthat wrote, Morgan Robertson, who wrote that story, he said that hehad no premonition. There's no psychic powers that work here, just that heknew his topic. He studied maritime, you know, sailing. I thinkhe was a sailor, and they just was very good about how ocean goingvessels worked and what their threats were and stuff like that. And I thinkhe's tall where the shipping line at the time was going, where they wereoverconfident and they weren't, you know, spending money on safety features and thingslike that. So he just kind of saw, yeah, inevitable thing thatwas going to happen. It's I mean, and that's authors do that a lot. It's almost like if you watch like Star Trek, Star Trek thenext generation from the S, they're all basically just using two thousand and twentytechnology, but it looks really cool. Yeah, like they were. Theywere guessing where we were going. In TVH has today, probably see glimpsesof what we're putting going to be doing like twenty years from now or something, and the Scifi, well, we know that coincidence. A coincidence isa very subjective thing, right, it's personal in nature and it inherently involvespatterns, but in a way that they're more than simple patterns, because ifyou look at it, there's no way that story I just told you thatyou can say that it was definitely a chance to event, because in orderfor you to be able to say that, that there was like an actual causalmechanism for that to happen, you would have to be basically odd andhave to understand the complete workers of the universe to explain to me how thatwas destined to happen. Right, right, there's no way that you can completelydismiss a coincidence is something less just to say it was a pure coincidence, which one of the things that strikes me as weird is about coincidence.Yet it's one man's coincidence is another man's just random chance, and it shouldand it's probably. But they they're both equally like when you talk about logicand stuff like. They're both equally like. Have a moral right to that opinionin the logical sense, because the other guy can't point to it andexplain to him why that was completely destined again, and I just I dothink it's something to the thought that maybe coincidence it just the end the workingsof the universe or something, and maybe it doesn't have to even mean anythingmore than we are more influence in the choices that each other make and itjust kind of ripples out in a ripple effect. And like there's this psychiatristand his name is Bernard Bateman. He's a visiting psychiatry in your Behavioral SciencesProfessor at the University of Virginia, and I found an article about him discovermagazine and he believes in coincidence and synchronicities, he says, synchronicities, which areindicators of an invisible network that connects everyone and everything. Bateman suspects humanstransmit some unobserved energetic information which other people than process or organized into emotion andbehavior. Just as sharks have ampula and their skin that detect small ultromagnetic changesto help them look a their prey,...

...it's plausible, maybe even probable,that humans have similar mechanisms that detect coincidences. Like what is why does you thinkthat, I mean? OR HOW DO WE PICK UP COINCIDENCE? Doeshe say he he gets a little bit more in into it, but thearticle then kind of just kind of gets into saying why quincies coincidences aren't athing, so I kind of stopped reading it. But they do mention that. Albert Einstein even commented on the idea of synchronicities. He said it's byno means absurd, and then in the fifties Carl young came up with asimilar idea that he called the synchronicity theory to describe events like that. Yes, synchronicity. Are those just meaningful coincidence, or is there something more going onbehind the scenes that we can't even really see? Your understand? Whenwe talk about meme culture, whatever, like you'll start to think that youare interested in a certain color like to paint in your walls or whatever yourwife will or people become interested in a certain animal that they want patterns madeof and stuff, and then all of a sudden it blows up all overthe world. Now, I'm not saying that that's coincidence or predictive programming,but it almost seems like there is some kind of universal subconscious and whether thatis being manipulated through popular media or as a way to either control or createconsumers, or if there's something even bigger than that, like a universal subconsciouslike you'll notice that they're like things grow and waves do. You don't know, and I is that make an I catch myself with that to like allof a sudden he'll just start to notice that everybody's kind of dressing more likea certain decade and like there's never like a big push, but you know, like it seems like every every new fashion trend it's just twenty years beforethe current time. And so for a while we've been seen all this ninestuff. Like I remember like one day just kind of noticing a little bitof a s look to someone's jacket and then the next day everybody was wearinglike freaking fanny packs and acid wash jeans, like where did that come from?And I know, like I'm old, so I don't get on all thissocial media that maybe people are learning how to dress from. But thesame kind of idea, like when is it cross the threshold to just kidsthat, you know, follow this artists on spotify dress like this, toseventy five percent of the people under the age of thirty five that you seehere all dress this. You know, when we talk about coincidence, Ithink everyone must have their own level of tolerance for how much of a coincidencethey're able to accept before they shrug their shoulders and say, like, youknow what, there's something else going on here. This can't just be purecoincidence. And not to go too far overboard or chain the whole true directoryof this program but like nine eleven, there are so many strange coincidence outof one day, out of one event, that it's it's almost impossible just toshrug your shoulders and move on. Like you know the planes, howthey went off course and they were flying into these towers. Just a couplemonths previous to that they had changed the Bush administration to change their reporting procedureso that instead of the military seeing a plane and scrambling jets to escort it, now they have to go to the secretary of State and get his approval, which dramatically slowed down the response time. Or you know, I think alot of people that are old enough remember World Trade Center seven and howthat building collapse. But it was the only at that time steel frame structureto collapse solely from fire damage. It was not hit by one of theplanes. That's an unusual coincidence. A lot of the stuff with the BenLawton's and how they were the only people allowed to fly out the country andall this other stuff. It just you have to look at something like thisand say, is this predictive programming? Is this just coincidence, or isthis this thing that we're calling synchronicity, or you know what I mean.Now it it does feel like sometimes the world, or that part of theworld, just has a moment and like it just kind of seies and likebleeds over and all these other moments, and I think I always come upwith them. We're things that happen during like the JFK assassination in the dayssurrounding it. They're just like so many like synchronicies popping up everywhere. andlike like Lee Harvey Oswald was seen passing out, I think, their anticommunist flyers in front of the CIA building New Orleans. Like what are thechances that just a coincidence? Or now, no matter what, we're always goingto have to wonder, like you know what I mean. Or there'sa lot of other coincidence to I mean, like Lee Harvey Oswald had a jobby he was paid by an FBI agentto order guns through the mail andsend them photos of the different guns because they were doing a congressman was doinga study to see how easy it was to get guns through the mail.There's just so many weird things. Or Yeah, there's, I think,where he showed up at different times or how he had connections with high rankingmillionaire CIA assets and things like that. So, yeah, you look atthat you say, is there something going...

...on here that is more than acoincidence? Or these just a bunch of quincidence so that, like, youcould be skeptical of any conspiracy theories and be like well, because Lee HarveyOswald had all these connections, all these things, these are just odd coincidence. It's odd coincidence that a guy can defect from the military, marry orSoviet Union colonel's daughter and then be elastic leaving this coviet union. It's socrazy and that's what leads me to credibly kind of believe in some of thoseconspiracy theories and I would love to just do a JFK conversation sometimes there's somuch interesting stuff there. But this does lead me to a thought that youcan go all in on the kind of supernatural paranormal coincidence thing or you canthink, hey, all these areas were super hot beds of Cold War's coldwars by activity at the time, so of course all these things are goingto be crossing interlocking. And remind me of the story that you brought upto me about the in the months leading up to the allied invasion of Normandyin World War Two with the cross root puzzles. Yeah, let me tellyou this story because it's so odd, it's so bizarre and there's a lotof different moving parts and stuff that when you look at it you might think, well, you could try to explain ways a simple coincidence, but reallyit's not. An in fact, at one point, you know, theygot so concerned looking at these words that were coming up in the crossroopoles thatalmost upset the entire invasion of Normandy, which would have you know, giganticrepercussions the entire history of the world of this head stopped it. So thisstory goes in the months leading up to allied invasion and Normandy in World WarII, there is collection of very particular words. It started pairing in acrosswhere its section of a popular British newspaper. And this thing started around may seconone thousand nine hundred and forty four, and the code words were all specificto parts of the D day operation that would kick off on June six. So you know, this is just like four days away from D Day. So obviously all the military intelligence people and stuff we are and heightened alert. Everybody was concerned about what was going on and they were trying to trackdown any would be saboteurs or spies. So when you know answers sorry popbeen up in the daily cross word that had to do with D Day,obviously Mi five in the American intelligence community and self started getting pretty concerned.But according to an article from the Telegraph, and this was probably in two thousandand fourteen and on British online history magazine as well, the answers includedthe code names of beaches where allied forces would eventually land, including the USsector codenamed Utah Omaha, and other parts of the invasion. One of thepuzzles included answer Mulbury, and that was probably connection to d day. Withmulberry was that there was going to be artificial harbor there was anchored off thecoast of France. It was called Mulberry to help move equipment on the beaches. So on May twenty seven, another one of the question solutions for thewas codenamed for the entire operation. Another one in the same, you know, line of Cross Room Puzzles came up was overlord and that was what theentire d day thing was going to be. That's so was unclear which puzzle causedthe investigators to track down who is writing them, but two officers weresent to Surrey, England, in May or early June to question this guynamed Leonard Daw and doll was a fifty four year old headmaster of the StrandBoys School and he denied any intended all to disclose classified information and he wasnever charged. But mifive, which is the British version of the FBI,chalked it up to just coincidence and they had a note that said that basicallyMr Daw was a compiler of puzzle. So he was a school teacher bya and just really into crossroposals. So into crossroposals that's hobby ended up leadingto creating them for the newspaper. So he had a weird practice to likewhat he would do was asked a students every day to give them just aword, like the first word they came to their head, and then hewould compile them into the cross reposal. So like as he's talking to astudents, they're give them things like Omaha Utah, overlord and Mulberry Right,and that's isn't that? What that that links to the skeptical explanation, whichis something called selection bias. So basically, such a bias is the biases introducedinto whatever your control group is by the selection of individuals. Groups aredata that you choose to analyze in a way that proper randomization is not achieved. So basically you're baking into your situation already the thing that biases the outcome. So he would his practice was to call in sixth formers, who,which I believe is the people that are in the next level of education andBritain, or maybe it's just like a different grade, but basically they saidit at that no, it's like sixth grade or seventh. Yeah, sothey said at that time the US Army was all over Surrey. I thinkthey're living there and in camp there and everything particular in that area. Andso there's no doubt those boys probably heard the code where it's being banded aboutinnocently and then just and instantly passed them...

...on. So basically they overheard them, they got there in their head it. I'm not sure about that. Idon't know how to research this part of things, so I can't giveyou an intelligent answer, but I know that the soldiers bust have known thatsomething was coming up, that they were gearing up for something massive. ThoughD Day was notoriously secretive, there's a lot of disinformation and stuff. Idon't know if they told the soldiers in advance what the names of the beachesthey're going to be landing on were. I don't think they told the majorityof the infantrymen. Maybe, like some special units, maybe had some moreadvanced notice, but I think the thing was largely kept secret even from mostof the units. So I read that too. I don't know how muchthat part could be true, but again I could. Yeah, I meanthese would be the most kind of top secret subjects in the entire Western wasso top secret and and there was so much misinformation. Dan that, likethe US and British army were ordering all these cold weather engine manuals and finishedtranslated in books and stuff like that, because they're trying to feign the Germansand to think they're going to attack at Finland or attack somewhere like off ofCorsica and the Mediterranean. They didn't want them to thinking that they were goingto France. And Not saying that this explains it, but I think itwas highly secret. If I don't know how much you know, obviously soldiersprobably found out more than they were supposed to know anyway. And, likeI said, I know that I'm sure they knew they were headed into thebiggest fight of their lives, but I don't know if they knew the actualcode words. So if you rule out espionage or just idol chat or looselips, then you're left with either, you know, the synchronicity or theuniversal subconscious and that there there's something larger going on that is causing, youknow, these words that are going to be so crucial for mankind history tostart showing up on something like a crossword puzzle. I know they my onlything to say that it's just human nature. I mean there's there's a saying likethree people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. Like, does it even matter if you see the word, even if you're thegeneral or whatever? You see the word overlord, but not a piece ofpaper? There's a chance you let eccellently, let someone else see it or yousay it's somebody. Are you talking your sleep? Like it just getsout. And so that's why they do the misdirection, because they know thatstuff is gone a leak. So they have to like have real leaks andplanned leaks and misinformation and all that. So yeah, you definitely have agood point there. And if you ever want to know how hard it isto keep like a conspiracy going, you should read about the water gate thing, where there's only a few guys, a couple lawyers in the president thatcould have kept all their asses out of jail, and they all still buckledunder the pressure of, you know, people asking questions and stuff and theycouldn't hold it together. So conspiracies and things like that they do find away of getting out there. But I really do sorry, I just Idon't want to say that I really do think that this really could have beenfate happening here, like because there, and I think it's like a mixtureof kind of that just our scientific explanations that we're talking about, and alsojust like sometimes there's like moments in history where just it feels like things align, and usually not in a good way, and like just things that have beenblowing up for a decade happen on one's like there's that saying. Ithink it's Lennon or marks actually said, like sometimes a year happens in adecade and sometimes a decade happens in a year. Basically, sometimes it's everythinghappens all at once. And like you know, if you ever been likein a situation where like you feel like your immediate danger or like you're justin a crowd, that's like starting to like lose it school, like youcan just feel something boil up. It's almost like pheromones or some time,a sixth sense that like just gets in the air and affects the way peopleact absolutely. And they always tell people to trust their good feelings and sometimes, like I deal with large groups of people and I've always maintained that thegroup itself has its own personality, is almost its own entity. Like youstill take the people as individuals and the cues that the individuals sending you.But then I like there's a larger context where they, as a group,become like their own thing. I don't know if it makes sense to alot of people when I explain to them, but you can almost pick out amood and just like feel the sense of what the group itself is experiencingor what they're about to do. Yeah, because I group is like almost likea living organism on to itself. That's that's basically what I'm saying.Yeah, and it's like the theory of very large numbers, right, thelaw of large numbers. Are Num numbers, a lot of large numbers. Yeah, I like like mine. I like mine. Well, the lawof large numbers is basically like the best...

...way to explain it is like thelottery. Right, the odds of you winning the mega millions are bad.You know, you got like a one three hundred million chance of twenty.So that it is terrible odds. Right. It's the people still play a lotof you know, knowing whatever. Yeah, you never quite play thelottery, but you don't think like, well, I bought a lot oftickets, so I'm going to quit my job because I'm probably going to bea millionaire tomorrow and so I don't need to worry about that. Like now, most people go into with expectation that it would be nice to win,but I don't think I'm win. But you're not surprised when you find outthat you didn't win, and you're also not surprised to find out that somebodyelse did win, even that person had the same odds. That's kind ofhow the law of large numbers works. Is like, if we have enoughof like a sample base, enough, you know, people involved in this, then like we shouldn't be surprised that really surprising things happen. It's basicallywhat it says. So to you win a lottery would be a surprise inmiracicaous event, but the fact that somebody else won the lottery doesn't really surpriseanybody. And it's and it's the same principle applies to the reason that we'rein separate locations right now. The social distancing, like one person could infecttwo people and two people in fact, for people, and you know,keeps for build affect apile and keeps going and going exponential tells this out ofcontrol thing that is shutting down the globe when really, you know, ifit you just caught at that one person, it would have been stopped in itstracks. That expencial growth and like just the way we interacts and societieskind of bounce off of each other because, yeah, just there's almost like there'san invisible force movement with it. Since we're talking about coincidence and youbrought up the coronavirus, I have a coronavirus coincidence for you. Yeah,do you know like that the laboratory and the Wuhan Province of China where thisthing broke out at like they specialize in studying bad viruses and in the lasttwelve years they've uncovered two thousand new viruses that bats can spread to humans,where in the previous two hundred years we'd only discovered like several hundred. Sothat's an interesting coincidence that we now have a bat do we know freaking virusfrom a laboratory near a laboratory that studies Bat freaking viruses? Right, I'mnot a hundred percent sold on that conspiracy. I think I think a kind ofa likely halflete solution might be a theory that you flooded. Is thatthe workers at the lab may have been selling the ant test animals to themarkets to sell for food. Yeah, but somehow in that transmission something leakedout. But what I told you is not even a conspiracy, though.I mean, like that's reported in the Washington Post and everywhere. That,like that's all. Yeah, yeah, there are bad virus laboratory. Yeah, for sure, it's. Well, that's what everybody studies because for somereason that's are like the prime vector for these coronaviruses to get to us.That's are some dirty know what it is about bat? Yeah, they're dirty, I guess. I guess so. I would have messed with a bat. Now I tend to stay away. They're cool animals. Like to seehim at the zoo. They're really interesting. But yeah, you don't want anyonenear you. I know a lot of times, like we sit outsideand have like a bonfire going in the summer months and stuff, and likeand night all these birds are like swooping low getting bugs and stuff, andit took us a long time before we realize that those were bats. Yeah, I love, I love to walk at Dusk and look for the batsbecause they're they're everywhere. You know. I want to go back to thelaw of large numbers are numbers. I got another thing that it has todo with how we seem to think that we need large are numbers for weirdthings to happen, but we really don't. And there's something that is like thebirthday paradox. It's some of that mathematicians talk about, or they callit the birthday problem. To illustrate this and ask the question of how manypeople need to be in a room before there's a fifty chance that two ofthem will share the same birthday. And do you have any idea with thenumber is? I think you probably too. Yes, I do, because Iread your notes, but if I had a guess, so what sizeis the group of people? It doesn't say what size the group is.It just says how many people. You're supposed to tell me how many peopleneed to be in the room before, like we got a fifty chance oftwo of them sharing the same birthday. And you know, you would think, because there's three hundred sixty five days in the year. I think CatherineSixty five day right. Yeah, something like, I don't know, ahundred and thirty or hundred and thirty point something. But Yeah, it's actuallytwenty three. Is the bare minimum number...

...before two of them will share thesame birthday. And I blew my mind whenever that because of what you're aboutto tell me. And you surprise me. When I told you that, Ijust thought it was kind of like a low number and I was surprisedby that. And then you, when I told you the number twenty three, you went off on a whole other thing. Explain that. Yeah,well, there's this thing called the twenty three enigma. There's actually a Jimcarrey movie, like one of his serious roles, about it to I thinkit's called the number twenty three. I think it's scary. Yeah, it'sa good movie, but basically William s burrows is sited as the first personto bring up what he called the twenty three enigma, and a gentleman bythe name of Robert Anton Wilson wrote an article in the fourteen times and hesaid I first heard of the twenty three enigma from William s burrows, authorof naked lunch, no of express etc. And if you know anything about nakedlunch, but it's like giant cockroaches and it's freaky stuff. But accordingto burrows, he had known a certain Captain Clark Rou one thousand nine hundredand sixty and Tangier, who once bragged that he had been sailing twenty threeyears without an accident. That Very Day carkship had an accident that killed himand everybody else aboard for the Moore. While Bros was thinking about this crewdexample of the irony of the gods. That evening a Bolton on the radioannounced the crash of an airliner in Florida USA. The pilot was another CaptainClark, and he was flight twenty three. Wow, so it's cool, right. Yeah, that is an example of outrageous coincidence and that's exactly thetype of improbable phenomena that we're talking about. And you know, some people thinkthat this law of large numbers, the law of near enough large numbers, could explain that, but a lot of people are not buying into that. I mean, these things are remarkably coincidental and they offer you a glimpseinto something behind the curtain. I think right and once and it's one ofthose things. It's the bye or minehoff phenomenon, which we can talk aboutwhere once you notice something you start seeing it everywhere. By Mine huff phenomenon, once you know it's twenty three, comes up in all this stuff andthere's a cool little wikipedia rabbit trail you can kind of go down. Butthey talked about a text called Prince of Principia discordia that claims that all thingshappen in fives or are divisible by or are multiples of five or how,somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to five. This is referred to as the lawof five. The twenty three enigma is regarded as a corollary of that law, because two plus three equals five. So, like it gets in theCathoulomist those, is considered lucky by some unlucky sinence. You're strange, sacredto the goddess eras, like you know, you get in all that numerology andlike the different types of magic and stuff like. That's all. Ijust crazy rabbit holes. We can go down and talk about weird stuff forever. But like it's a coincidence. It ties right into your story. Soyou but coincidence is weird because it makes it hard to be a rational personwhen there's so many strange coincidence out there that you, like I said before, you there just have to shrug it off and say, you know,there's so many weird coincids, I don't know and just move on, oryou look at it too closely and all of a sudden like you're being ledinto conspiracies and you're being led into believing that there's something bigger out there thanjust random chaos. You know what I mean? You can't like a coincidenceand look at the world the same way after that. Now I'd say thatit's an important skill to not take any information at face value, but it'salso important skill to recognize that sometimes it's okay to trust what your senses aretelling you. You know, because you could like be like, you know, because sometimes they'll be a story in the news where that's either disinformation orthe mediahead that release the news that some type of agenda, or sometimes it'sjust a mistake. And then, but you know, like, for example, someone say, well, I'm never reading CNN again because they're biased.Right, but then that can make you turn off. You then you goton the rabbit hole roll. I can't trust anything ever, except for Bobon the Internet. Who told me that this is aliens. So there's there'sa fine line you gotta walk. Others you go crazy. You know,there's so many weird coincidents, like involving presidents. How I think John Adamsand Thomas Jefferson both died on the same day, which happened to be thefourth of July. Here the Lincoln stuff, and you can go off about howthe Lincoln assassination, how and the Kennedy assassination, the tie ins betweenthe different names or how, like Lincoln's assassin, one of the fourth theaterKennedy, was assassinated driving in a Ford Lincoln and all these weird things.But I found one about Robert Todd. There's actually two about Robert Todd.I don't know if you've ever heard these, but they're both pretty interesting that Iwas planning on bringing him up and I couldn't find a good way tosay, gue into his so I'm just shooting it out. But one ofthe things was there's a connection between John...

Booth, Wilkes's brother, and oneof the Lincoln Boys. So Bruce John olks booth had a brother named Edwynand at one time he was at a train station in New Jersey and Lincoln'sson, Robert Todd Lincoln, was leaned up against a stop train and healmost fell onto the tracks as the train started moving and he was saved bysomebody grab him by the collar and pulling them back, and they happened tobe Edwin booth, who's brother would later kill, you know, Robert ToddLincoln's father, which is okay. So it's just kind of weird quincidental.But when you look at Robert Todd there's a lot of other weird coincidents involvinghim. Like he was basically an eyewitness for three different presidential assassinations. Hewasn't in the theater when his dad was killed, but he went to hisdeathbed and he was there as his dad actually passed away. He was alsoan eyewitness to James a Garfield's assassination and then in one thousand nine hundred andone he was in Buffalo, New York because he was invited by President WilliamMckinley to meet him there and he didn't get a chance to see William McKenley because McGinley was assassinateds he was on his way there to meet him.So I mean like is Robert Todd Lincoln just bad luck? I'm right,I know. I keep asking these things and like there's no real answers tothem, obviously, but they're crazy. We're like this one. Everybody knows. But like in the civil war when it broke out in one thousand eighthundred and sixty one, the first battle bowl run right. It happened neara stream that was owned by like a forty six year old grosser name WilliamMcLean, and after how devastating it upsetting the battle was, he picked uphis whole family and moved them and where he moved to ended up being apomaticscourt house where the war ended. or in World War One there's a cemeterywhere they're just randomly burying the bodies throughout the war and if you go there, the first casually the war cemetery or headstone is faced exactly opposite as thelast casualty of that wars and like there is no planet as how the bodieswent in there. That's cool. I just like looking at the coincidence.I mean, we don't know, you know, we can't say for certainhow many of these things are planned or off any of them are. Ifthere's a bigger thing going on that we're missing. But I know and it'sbut there's something because as they get like, you know, the two gray sunsfacing it seems like Wincon is to us, but the scroll that runsto their gay ride, it means nothing to him. So it's all aboutyour perspective too, but it's real to us, so that makes it real. Well, that's really a good point and I didn't think of that.That is a good point. And I was reading a little bit about JohnWilkes, booth's brother, and he was considered when the greatest actors in Americaat the time. He's famous for doing Shakespeare. He's called possibly the greatesthamlet of all time. But he also acted in Julius, the play JuliusCaesar, with his brother Edwin played brutus and John Wilkes Played Mark Anthony.So it's assassination in that one too, and he played the assassin. NoBrutus, I as yeah, well, there was. There's like twelve dudesat stab him or whatever. But I shame myself that I don't actually knowthat story at all. I just know what the Guy I don't know thatShakespeare at all. See that one could be less coincidental and that could justbe more of an insight on what helps shape the man. You know whatI mean? And how? Yeah, thanks, it's just, it's just, it's interesting because if you listen to what you know six sum for tyrannus, that he shouted after he jumped off the balcony, like he viewed himselfas an advenger for the Republican he was, at least in his own mind,thought he was killing a tyrant, which is what supposedly the people thatkilled Julius Caesar thought they were doing too. Yeah, I mean, incidents areyou know, you can there's no way that you can pin it downto anything and how weird it is. But like the thing with John Wolkesbooth there, could almost think that this is giving you indication how this guysaw himself in history or how he hoped to be seen in history. Right, and because we're all shaped by our experiences, right. So, butthen there's weird things that you can't plan to end up being funny to likeI was reading about there's an airline in Finland called Finnair. For whatever reasonthey have a plane or a flight. You know how the flight numbers aredifferent from the plane numbers. So they had a flight six and sixty sixthat left Copenhagen for Hell Sinky, and Hell Sinki is appreviate is atl forthe airline. So left flight six, six six left for hell and itwas on Friday the thirteen. So a lot of people thought that was funny. Nothing bad happened. It's just coincident.

But like, would you buy takeit on flight six hundred and sixty six for hell on Friday the thirteen, right? Or did anybody like cancel their tickets or try to switch theirflights? I wonder right nowould be interesting the here, because I I don'tknow. I if I knew before I bought the ticket, I would definitelypassed on that. But that plane didn't crash or nothing bad happened there.So okay, so I guess basically where I'm trying to go, or wherewe've been going this whole program is that. Yeah, absurdly improbable things happen allthe time, and what I set out to do and discuss when westarted this was can we read anything more into these absurdly absurdly improbable events?You know, are they pointed us to just look at something else, likeis there somebody running the show, or these acts of God or these supernaturalor some of these just like fluctuations of large numbers. And so we talkedabout, you know, the improbability just of your own birth, or howwe can look at things like your ten digit phone number that we all have. Right, that number is unique and it's assigned to you and is improbablelike that. You've got that combination numbers. But yet you do, and Ihave my combination numbers and everybody listening has their own. And so theseare extremely improbable events. Like the probability of you getting that phone number is, you know, staggering, but you got it and it just because somebodywas going to have to get that phone number and it just was you right. I like if he asked me to guess what my next phone number isgoing to be, I could never guess, but whenever I get it, I'mnot going to be surprised by it either. And that and I mean, but then there's other things, like, did you know there's when the Dennisthe menace, the first issue of Dennis the menace was on March twelve, one thousand nine hundred and fifty one. But on that same day in GreatBritain there was their own comic book that had a character called Dennis themenace. That appear to the same exact day and they're totally different characters.But there's just all these weird little like synchronicities to life too, and Ilove stuff like that. Are Do you remember in the s when, likeone summer an asteroid movie, like an asteroid is aster movie, came outone month and two months later completely separate asteroid disaster movie came out and thesame thing happened? Like volcana movies, like a disaster movies are a bigthing in the S, and be like they would all have the same idea. Yeah, and and they'd be a two separate movies here. You knowwhat I mean, like it's coincidental kind of well, it's not like thestudio looked at it and saw that, like that movie was a big hit, we need to make one for next week, because these things are inproduction for a long time. So multiple producers and actors and scriptwriters and studiosall decided to do a very similar thing. Now. Glad that you brought thatup. To though, they exact, because I think about predictive programming andsome of the stuff is sometimes predicted programming to to get people used tolike a major societal change or something like that, like with the coronavirus andthings like that. You know, there's been some things in the last fewyears leading up to a more and more movies about massive pandemics, and Ithink I personally believe that the whole Zombie, walking dead, all that stuff isshowing us in infection could be prepping you, you know, for likethis post apocalyptic kind of world that we're going to be going into. Imean, that's just a personal pet theory. We're not at the end of thisthing yet, so we can't say farm right or wrong, but Inever thought that the zombies were supposed to represent actual, you know, humanscoming back from the dead and eating brains, but just I mean I think thatit's that would be a super interesting topic that I love to talk toyou about, because I know you don't hot to research into predict the programmingand I don't know a whole lot about it, but I also think stufflike that is interesting, kind of capturing the Zeitgeist of a moment, andthat's like a obviously a German word that I think it means the spirit atthe time, basically, and like sometimes, like what does that say about theculture that first gave is and people are watching a post apocalyptic adventure killingdead people like that's some messed up things in our collect right. There hasto be a cultural demand, like they tied, for that kind of thingfor those people to want to consume what. You're right about that. And soit's it gets all into everything we talk about, like the memes andthe the viral and everything. Well, when you said Zekeegeist, you knowthis. You just you're helping me wrap this up, because I think thatI want to put these different coincidence into different boxes. There's one is obviouslythat's just a coincidence, and those things are unique and curious and you canshrug your shoulders at them and and that's all they are. I think somestuff is like predicted programming. That's harder and, like you said, that'sa totally different episode to try to pin down what those are and where they'recoming from and all that. I think some of the stuff, like yousaid with the Zychcheist, like, there...

...does appear to be this kind ofcollective unconscious. And I saw there was a universe who did a study oncrossword puzzles and like these people had no access to these different cross for puzzles. They I don't know if the study had them like staying at a hotelfor all weekend or whatever. In the first day they gave him cross repuzzles that they had just made up and they didn't do as well on them. And then they started showing them cross your puzzles that had appeared the previousday on another side of the world. And just because that quarker, thatcross root puzzled already, you know, been out there and people completed it. Like they seem to have done statistically better on the cross repulsal. Sosome of the stuff, I think that leads more into like synchronicity and stuff. Yeah, and there is also, in my like Super Limited understanding ofquantum physics. Aren't they just now researching that they can make like a protonappears simultaneously at the moment of his creation? I'm point stuff way out of wherever. I was like entanglement, that ideas out there that, yeah,quantum entanglement, that might be what it is, but like what, likethe automobile, like wasn't that like kind of developed simultaneously in the US andin Jack and any invention, any invention that we somebody would be like,Oh, actually, Edison didn't invent all like Babble, was this guy,you know what I mean? All these things happened like that, because alwayssomebody else that is out there at basically the same time running to file apatent on something. And you know, yeah, and like and you seethat in like in like group think and hive mind and all that kind ofpsychological phenomena. Were people part of it? Just in the desire to go onto get along or to conform to like a strong lead or whatever,they all just kind of start agreeing on everything and like that's a culture isbasically developed. You know, and how much of that is that just everythingkind of lines upright at the at the right time, where a bunch ofpeople all have the Semurika moment because of the circumstance, or if there reallyis like some type of a sixth sense thing going on there? And that'syou know, kind of doing research for this topic that you brought up,I I really thought about it harder than I'd ever thought about it before,and synchronicity something I've been interested in lately before this and I think it tiesinto this topic as well. So the famous psychologist call young came up withthe concept of synchronicity and it just means that events that are meaningful coincidences ifthey occur with no basis for them happening. It seemed to be meaningful related,or no causal relationship yet seemed to be meaningful related. So says,just as events may be connected by causality, they may be connected by meaning.Events connected by meaning need not have an explanation in terms of causality.So basically he's saying it's just to him it's just as. I'm kind oflost for the word here, but it means just as much for him fora strange coincidence to happen as it means for him for, you know,a force being applied to an object makes the object move. Like he's JustHee's it kind of as another aspect of the human nature. But he hadin the past use it to argue for the existence of some type of paranormalto so I don't know what thoughts you have on synchronicity. I really don'tunderstand it, I guess, enough to even really comment on it too much. I just think that sometimes there's something going on out there that's beyond ourunderstanding, that's beyond just the law of large numbers, that's beyond coincidence,and a lot of times they're they're evolving around like very meaningful events in thehistory of mankind and in life or death situations. And some of it Ithink it comes from above. You know, some of these may tie back toGod, some of these, I think, our paranormal or supernatural nature, and then some of them I just think are strange coincidence and we don'talways get to know. But which ones are which? Yeah, but theresome some of them are almost verifiable and you know, people have used kindof synchronicities to help investigate mysteries or to help reveal, you know, thingsthat they're trying to discover about their own lives. Or in Carl Young asan example, where he had a young woman patient who, in spite ofefforts they both made to kind of get a useful therapy, she just waslocked down. Basically, he said she she couldn't make any progress because shealways knew better about everything so she always...

...had the answer. She couldn't beshaken at all. And one day she was telling him about a dream shehad the night before where someone had given her a golden scaup, like areally beautiful piece of jewelry. And she's telling about the dreame because its memorable. That's weird gold scarub. And while he's listened to her talk, hehears something behind him gently tap it on the window. He opens it up. It's a giant golden scare of beetle and he hands it hurts that.Here's your Scaub, and that just led to a breakthrough in her therapy becauseshe could finally like. It shook her enough to be open to therapy.So say, that's a cool egret where. So she dreamt the scarab before shereceived it. Yeah, she dropped about the scarab as a piece ofjewelry, but while she was telling this to Carl Young, a scaup flowup to his window and it was golden in color. See, yeah,that stuff is weird. We need to do an episode about dreams one daytoo, because maybe dreams are just a part of synchronicity. I mean thisis a fascinating topic. It's too much for one episode. You know,remember how we used to talk about I think it's at cloving point Arrow,or whatever. It's particular Arrowhead yes, showed up all over the world atthe same time. Different things like that. I mean I think that might bean example of synchronicity. Cultures that don't didn't have any ability to talkto each other or even travel to see each other are doing the same thingsaround the world at the same time. Or like, you know, youjust gave that example of the dream and then there's something in her waking lifethe next day that mimics that some of the stuff. You know, youcould be a skeptic and say that like it's near enough, but it's notidentical so it doesn't count. But it meant something to her. It wassignificant for her. It was a sign that she was looking for. Someof this stuff might be interpretation, but it's well worth looking into and talkingabout and I want to thank you for joining me tonight and calling in fromyour bunker. I hope that you stay safe and that this coronavirus thing goesaway pretty soon so we can get back and have you at the main themeof Bunker at the West camp, get down here to the studio sometime soon. Yeah, I hope so too. I hope you stay safe and Ireally never will say that's just a coincidence. Yeah, ME, neither. Ithink that's cool. Yeah, but can I honestly? I'll stop myRey quite UN quick.

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